Agree with most of the above.

I think there’s a magic tipping point in a team where you have just the right amount of high quality players to win more games than you lose; that then feeds into virtuous circles of confidence and every other player looks better too.

Practically we can either load the side up with more cheap punts/ projects (NoooOoOoOOoOooooo!!!) or focus on high quality and work with the youth. I’m very much a Camp B guy. Or just camp.

I feel sorry for Croft.
When you look at his trys / assists / stats they are pretty good despite how little attacking position we get.
Ypu can see how much it means to him to win, like in the Burrow Game.

I don't understand the fascination on here with Oldeski - he has been terrible for three years - his defence is suspect to say the least and his lack of go foward is a major comtibutory factor to the lack of progress the Rhinos are able to make

Lack of Go forward? He is consistently our only prop around/over the 100m benchmark. Defensively lacks real bang but is by no means an issue. Last year he wasn’t great but played most of the year busted and has needed time to get to speed this year, while still trying to carry the pack, arguably trying too hard.
In my opinion he has become a bit of a scapegoat and I’m not sure why.

He's our best prop by a considerable distance. I'm not sure how anybody could draw any other conclusion. Surround him with a couple of others of same, or better quality and our front row problems are at an end.

Personally I want to see Rowley at Leeds. I think he is a good fit for the club with no baggage. I think he will be good for bringing on academy players which is the only way we win anything. You can’t buy a team. Big name signings will destroy morale for the up and coming lads.
I don’t want an Aussie whose family may not settle.

Yep fully agree. For me the responsibility for the failure over these last 7 or 8 years is ultimately Hetherington. He made far too many mistakes with coaching and player recruitment. Rohan built this squad which is woefully inadequate and the players have been poorly coached which is plain to see. Whoever the next coach is, it’s a massive massive appointment and one we have to get right

That's literally Salfords M.O.

He doesn't have much competition to be honest - he simply hasn't developed into a top prop. Would he get into the team at Saints, Wigan or Warrington?

The way posters laud him on here you think he is Glenn Lazarus.

Absolutely he’d get into those teams and I’d suggest he’d look better as part of stronger more balanced rotation.

He'd get into any other SL team, he's an ex-England international and pretty well thought of.

Whether he'd be starting prop for Wigan... not sure.

Whilst I agree with all you have said mate the last sentence is like rinse and repeat and something we have been saying for 7 years now.
When you look at a team like Leeds and all their success over the years and look at the squad now. Most agree there`s only 4 or 5 players in that squad we would keep is an embarrassment.

Yeah spot on mate. I’ve personally grown very weary of our failure to even compete at the top end of the table.. it’s been tough to take.

Agree with you ,as I am a supporter from well before super league I am battle hardened to failure And false dawns. However I will still support the team. As I have posted several times it’s a given fact we are a poor team but we are a deeply flawed team. Example ,at Salford Bentley faces an attacker , simple task to leg tackle him. Can’t do that has to give him a head high tackle. We never have the mental capacity to protect our lead, we start giving daft penalties away, or trying over ambitious passes. Won’t go on anymore as I know I am becoming repetitive.