FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > SPORTING DIRECTOR | Ian Blease |
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| Quote: Seth "I don't know if it's just me but GH seemedto provide mitigation for how poor we 've been by alluding to the 'strength' of the competition (which I'd dispute) where as blease seemed more determined to emphasize that nothing below winning comps and being at the top is good enough.
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And that is spot on.
I`m not into this well we played really but we keep losing rubbish.
It`s all about winning and sport is a business that needs results.
We can play with flair once we start winning and grinding out results over a sustained period of time.
I really do think Blease will expect Smith to deliver.
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| Agreed, mainly because the board will be looking at him if the coach isnt delivering.
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "ATEOTD its Blease's job to get the playing side firing, its his ass in the breeze if it goes sideways.
I liked what I heard yesterday, especially about leaving the Golden generation gubbins in the past and instead create a new culture and new stories etc. Its also great that weve finally got someone from outside the club to come in and cast fresh eyes on the playing side.'"
“You see all these trophies the golden generation won? Well, stick em in the bin because they were all won by bloomin cheating”.
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| I think Blease looks a good appointment - anyone who takes decision making off GH is a move forward when it comes to the playing side.
It looks to me like RS's days are numbered. GH has form on this, he did it when he brought Agar across to "assist" Furner. Different scenario but similar MO, bringing someone in to apply pressure to the coach. Blease was non-committal about Smith. He talked about identity, I reckon he's read this forum and there are some semis.
The performance side of the club clearly needs a thorough review, and with a fresh pair of eyes. Whether Blease can replicate some "success" at Leeds remains to be seen, I think Salford and Leeds are very different propositions with different pressures and dynamics. I'll reserve ultimate judgment until I see what kind of signings and retention business we do. But cautiously optimisitc.
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| He's got 10 games. If there's no improvement then "Blease out".
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| the big difference between salford and leeds is expectation.
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| Quote: Seth "I don't know if it's just me but GH seemedto provide mitigation for how poor we 've been by alluding to the 'strength' of the competition (which I'd dispute) where as blease seemed more determined to emphasize that nothing below winning comps and being at the top is good enough.'"
Yeah GH was as usual trying to put a positive spin on things but it was nonsense imo. With rubbish excuses like that you can see why we’ve been poor these last few seasons. On the other hand I very much liked what Blease had to say and how he went about it.
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27287_1532947987.png BELIEVE. BELIEF. BEYOND.
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| Agreed. Lets hope he can make an impact when he starts next Monday.
I very much liked the cut of his jib.
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| Quote: tad rhino "the big difference between salford and leeds is expectation.'"
And the fact that they almost constantly exceed expectation and we are way below expectation points to good signs.
Ultimately, this seems a long term appointment, you don't sack a DOR unless they have put years worth of bad coaches in place, not just one or two appointments.
I think it's much healthier that he's no loyalty to Smith. He loosely said he would support the coaching staff in the presser, but from the tone and body language, and the fact RS wasn't there speaks volumes.
Not expecting a change before the end of the season, but I'm almost certain we'll have a new coach next year.
One interesting part that he mentioned was repairing Salford's public image to the overseas market. Wonder if we need a similar thing.
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| Good post and I agree.
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| A very good point. We do seem to have a somewhat tarnished reputation down under and don't seem to have the best "inside track" on players / agents etc from the NRL.
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| Blease is big pals with Jackson Hastings too.
Wouldn't rule out seeing him in blue and amber at some point in the future.
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| Blease should be given time to carry out a full review of all rugby related matters at the club from coaching at all levels,support staff and playing roster. This will take time as in order to deliver the sustainable change that is required the right appointments need to be made and we don't have too much salary cap space at first team level.
I would hope that the vision should be to create a structure where all levels of the club prepare a pathway to he first team. There should be an identity and a way of playing through the club which makes transition into the first team straightforward for young players. This is a problem for RS as currently his style of playing is not one you would want replicated across the club.
As such the ball in RS count buy into the new reagime or move on. Who know he might step up but I believe there will be a parting of the ways at the end of the year.
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| I'm not trying to be controversial, but it will take more than using the words "winning" and "identity" for me to buy into Blease. Wanting to win, and being able to win, are entirely different things. It's not like the current staff we have are trying to lose.
Salford have managed to punch well above their weight, IB clearly was a big part of that. We desperately needed a fresh perspective and we have that now. We also needed some effective reach into NRL. What I'm looking for is better judgement on individual players, and getting the overall mix right.
Blease needs to decide on props/back rower combinations that will give us a better platform, on the 7 shirt, and obviously on whether RS is the right man or not. Said it before but although I'm not totally given up on this season (85% given up) - I don't think there are any excuses for Leeds not challening for all trophies in 2025. The thing Blease and others need to get right is: it isn't good enough to catch Wigan or Saints or Warrington, we have to assemble a BETTER team and coaching set up than they have. To do that, we are going to have to sign BETTER overseas players. Look at the impact French has had on Wigan for example - huge. We have Frawley.
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| Not sure Frawley is the best comparison with French. But even Miller and Croft aren't delivering the same kind of performances as Field and French.
Not too long ago we beat Wigan, and Harry Newman battered Field and French into submission. Harry hasn't come near hitting those heights since, either defensively or with ball in hand. Genuinely not sure who takes responsibility for that - I guess it is in Blease's remit now.
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