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| My one abiding memory of Golding at the Wakefield game ,is him trying to run the ball out from our own try line. Then facing a wall of Wakefield players who promptly smashed him back over our try line. Mission impossible ,even saint zac would have struggled under that scenario. At the Wakefield game he had virtually no support from his colleagues so it's sacrificial lamb time for him.
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| The difference between Walker and some of the forwards is that he's actually shown he can step up, and we was probably unlucky to not not keep his place in the side when Golding was fit again. The other options in the pack are either injured or way off SL level, and have even struggled to make an impact at Championship level.
Also, JJB has performed well this season up until last week, so by the same 'logic' he'd have been unlucky to miss out this week after one bad game.
Sure, Ablett has struggled for over a year, but who can we pick instead? Keinhorst? Walters?
I also notice that McDermott has said Golding and Walker know that they're fighting for the number one shirt next year, good to see IMO
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| JJR should replace ablett, he was a stand out v wigan.
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| People criticised McDermott for not giving youth a chance,
after Hardaker's behaviour, McDermott gives Golding a chance to stake a claim
People complain that Golding isnt good enough at full back
Jack Walker gets a game and plays well
People complain that Golding comes back in and isnt as good as Walker
Golding plays appallingly in appalling team performance
McDermott recalls Walker
People complain that McDermott drops Golding for Walker.
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| Quote: Seth "JJR should replace ablett, he was a stand out v wigan.'"
Agree completely, JJR proved that he could handle the step up and deserves some game time.
EDIT: Just to add I also thought Ormondroyd had a decent game in the backrow against Wigan so it's not like we have no options other than Ablett and JJB.
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| so we are allowed to have competition at full back but nowhere else then.brilliant. then people wonder why complacency has set in
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "People criticised McDermott for not giving youth a chance,
after Hardaker's behaviour, McDermott gives Golding a chance to stake a claim
People complain that Golding isnt good enough at full back
Jack Walker gets a game and plays well
People complain that Golding comes back in and isnt as good as Walker
Golding plays appallingly in appalling team performance
McDermott recalls Walker
People complain that McDermott drops Golding for Walker.'"
cant make it up can you.
fact is i think walker is a cracking player and prospect, but so was golding at the same age, golding had loads on niggley injuries and dont think he is more tyhan 905 fit
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| Quote: tad rhino "so we are allowed to have competition at full back but nowhere else then.brilliant. then people wonder why complacency has set in'"
Of course we're allowed, but we don't. JJR is a decent shout based on his Wigan performance, but he was pretty poor for Bradford earlier this season as well.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "People criticised McDermott for not giving youth a chance,
after Hardaker's behaviour, McDermott gives Golding a chance to stake a claim
People complain that Golding isnt good enough at full back
Jack Walker gets a game and plays well
People complain that Golding comes back in and isnt as good as Walker
Golding plays appallingly in appalling team performance
McDermott recalls Walker
People complain that McDermott drops Golding for Walker.'"
The issue why do we have competition at FB but not competition in the back row - could it be McDermott has decided that the likes of JJB, Delanney and Ablett will be selected so no point having more competition.
It seems barmy to me to give two players specialists in one position long term contracts - if Walker is the solution what is Golding going to do for the next 4 years?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The issue why do we have competition at FB but not competition in the back row - could it be McDermott has decided that the likes of JJB, Delanney and Ablett will be selected so no point having more competition.
It seems barmy to me to give two players specialists in one position long term contracts - if Walker is the solution what is Golding going to do for the next 4 years?'"
The equivalent at 2nd to Walker is Cameron Smith and he's been poor at Bradford. JJR did ok vs Wigan but in the context of the lineup and overall performance and didn't sound nothing special at Bradford earlier. He tried dropping Briscoe for Handley but the latter didn't do well enough.
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| Quote: tad rhino "so we are allowed to have competition at full back but nowhere else then.brilliant. then people wonder why complacency has set in'"
What a rediculous thing to say. Of course we are allowed. But with garbutt, Galloway and ferres injured, josh Walters useless, your left with ormandroyd, baldwinson, smith, oledski and JJR, who have 25 super league appearances between them, the fact is there ISNT competition for places.
I can't think of anyone on here who has said you're not allowed that competition, in fact I'd say everyone here would indeed want that.
With regards to walker and Golding, they're both young, fighting for one position. Golding is hardly an established first teamed himself. And walker has showed recently his form has been very good and was perhaps unlucky to have been dropped for Golding in the first place
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "People criticised McDermott for not giving youth a chance,
after Hardaker's behaviour, McDermott gives Golding a chance to stake a claim
People complain that Golding isnt good enough at full back
Jack Walker gets a game and plays well
People complain that Golding comes back in and isnt as good as Walker
Golding plays appallingly in appalling team performance
McDermott recalls Walker
People complain that McDermott drops Golding for Walker.'"
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| Quote: PrinterThe "The equivalent at 2nd to Walker is Cameron Smith and he's been poor at Bradford. JJR did ok vs Wigan but in the context of the lineup and overall performance and didn't sound nothing special at Bradford earlier. He tried dropping Briscoe for Handley but the latter didn't do well enough.'"
Therein lies the problem - lack of depth - possibly due to McDermott wanting to play JJB/Delaney/Ablett every week if fit - despite numerous poor performances these three always get picked if fit enough. No point developing youngsters if the coach isn't prepared to give them game time on a regular basis
JJR may not have been special but he cannot have been worse than Ablett has been all year and JJB against Wakefield. If is the criteria by which you select you side e.g. Golding then it should be applied to everyone else other wise it isn't equitable.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Therein lies the problem - lack of depth - possibly due to McDermott wanting to play JJB/Delaney/Ablett every week if fit - despite numerous poor performances these three always get picked if fit enough. No point developing youngsters if the coach isn't prepared to give them game time on a regular basis
JJR may not have been special but he cannot have been worse than Ablett has been all year and JJB against Wakefield. If is the criteria by which you select you side e.g. Golding then it should be applied to everyone else other wise it isn't equitable.'"
If he always wanted to play Ablett, Delaney and JJB in the back row and thus not have stronger competition then why sign an England international in Ferres (granted he hasn't worked out in hindsight but the point stands)
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