Interesting points chaps.

If you look down our roster of under-22s (with the caveat that not all these players will lock down a position and “make it”): Walker, Tindall, Newman, Broadbent, Edwards, Simpson, Sinfield, Mik, Johnson: Holroyd, Walters, Gannon, O’Connor, Smith… you could add in several others on the fringes… I’m saying I think that’s the best home-grown generation of players I can remember.

I know the game is in a tough place right now at all levels but that is an exceptionally talented group in any era. I don’t know if I’d swap Mik and Holroyd for Ward and Bailey for example.

The talent is there but the names mentioned are in the 1st team full time squad not in the scholarship/academy programme. Thats standard for Leeds.

We agree on most things, of course we shouldve won yesterday but there are reasons for this group to be under perforning is all im saying.

Anybody know how Corey Johnson has been going on at York? See he started at half again today. Hope he is rediscovering his love for the game.

Hes going well but Leeds asked him to return this week with Dwyer facing a covid test and he said he wasnt ready mentally or physically for SL yet which i would have thought he wouldve jumped at the opportunity. Bit of a concern. He was at the game Thursday.

Yeh he's going pretty well.
Been playing at 7.
And he's even been kicking some goals!
I went to watch the game against Widnes a couple of weeks ago and he did pretty well.
But it reminded me of Leeming covering in the halves. You can just tell it's not his favoured position.
And I agree, I don't think he's physically ready for SL yet, but getting back going again at York will do him good.

Fingers crossed that with a proper pre season in him he will feel ready to take the step up. Convinced he has the talent, and then some. With Dwyer off contract at the end of next year he has a great opportunity to force his way into the first choice 17.

Yeah we do, i respect your opinion. Nothing wrong with disagreeing now and again, Chevs one of those occasions. I think he's one of the reasons theyr under performing.

Yesterday wasnt the reason i dont rate him, the result, but more importantly the performance, are just another layer on top of what i already thought. Like i say, hopefully he goes on to prove me wrong.

Think we saw early season with the 1st team that if your spine is no good you cant do much as a team. Half backs and hookers, other than Corey, in 19s have been poor for a long time. The game isnt producing many at all unfortunately.

I can understand Corey’s thoughts there - he will know he’s missed loads and probably doesn’t want to come back in to Leeds feeling underdone.

It also wouldn’t surprise me if he decided it still wasn’t for him after this season. He’ll be into a pretty brutal pre-season at Leeds leading into next year and will need to be up for it.

You guys really know your stuff, lots of respect for you both. I don’t think hookers and halves is a new problem.
1 decent player in these positions every couple of years is about the form.

I am very encouraged by the quality of some lf these younger lads. The youth of today gets a bad wrap in some quarters but there are some diamonds at Leeds which bodes well.

A full strength Castleford would beat a full strength Leeds in my opinion.

You've mentioned twice about Leeds playing against Hull KR under 17s. Hull KR didn't play any under 17s matches.

The under 16s match between the 2 sides was a decent, if error ridden, contest if that is what you meant.

Yeah it was. It got confusing with mostly same players playing as 16s and then as 17s a week later. KR was best team we played but the 2nd half was a knockonathon it must be said.

Would be a good game, the Cas 2nd years are the only team iv seen outplay a Butterill coached nearly full strength Scholarship side in years, we'v dropped the odd one when playing lots of u15's to give them a game, but cant remember a defeat when playing a strong team apart from that cas game. Our first years are much better than Cas first years though, many of which played and excelled in the origin game playing a year up, theyr also better already than our 2nd years in most cases.

Not sure how many 3rd years Cas use, we'd probably only use Tindall and Hall in our strongest side.

Matt i wouldnt think too much of the Origin game. Lancashire was hit hard by covid and was a pretty weak team.