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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "What makes you think Sinfield will get ot right?
Up to now he's way out of his depth & spending too much time hiring yes men & his mates on the Coaching staff & squad wise its 1 decent signing then 1 bad one.'"
How do you know he’s out of his depth, unless you are privvy to how and what he is doing
He’s cleared a hell of a lot of the deadwood out that people on here wanted rid of, what he’s trying to do will take a fair few years
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| Quote: christopher "How do you know he’s out of his depth, unless you are privvy to how and what he is doing
He’s cleared a hell of a lot of the deadwood out that people on here wanted rid of, what he’s trying to do will take a fair few years'"
Cleared the dead wood but weve just as much dead wood now as when he started.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Cleared the dead wood but weve just as much dead wood now as when he started.'"
For this statement to make sense he must have replaced the "deadwood" cleared with the same amount of "deadwood" as he shipped out. The only other possible solution is that players not previously deemed to be deadwood now are?
I don't think that Martin, Prior, Ava or Gale are "deadwood", do you? Jury is out on Leeming and Mellor...
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "When will this be played?'"
I’ll be surprised if this is played anytime before May. Especially with Huddersfield Town having a say too. I’d hazard a guess they’ll wait for CC games and see how they go, if we get a good cup run then it’ll be mid week.
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| Quote: christopher "How do you know he’s out of his depth, unless you are privvy to how and what he is doing
He’s cleared a hell of a lot of the deadwood out that people on here wanted rid of, what he’s trying to do will take a fair few years'"
Exibit A-He signed an already injured Dom Crosby an aversge L.Briscoe dont even get me started on Jordan Thompson & made Ferres Captain alkng with giving Ablett who was retiring due to injury a 2yr deal & extended Jjb's deal when he was gone as a player.
Exibhit B-Hired Furner promised to back him but then sacked him after nobody liked what Furner was doing & what he wanted to do with the squad.
Exibhit C- Hired Agar who has FAILED in every SL head Coach job gave assistent jobs to Walker Jjb & Webster who the brutal honesty os not 1 of them deserve that role nor have they earned it.
Now i think signing Hurrell Ava Martin Gale Prior are decent moves i see the potential in Leeming & Mellor but lets not forgethe signed Rhys Evans extended Crosbys deal when we had 1st hand views of his injury issues extended Donaldsons deal who although very game is very ordinary gave Lui a 2 & half deal really? & gave L.Briscoe a 3yr deal & let Merrin go without replacing him.
Thats what im privvy to & i left out fat Tui because some say that was GH.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Cleared the dead wood but weve just as much dead wood now as when he started.'"
Doesn’t make one bit of sense that, but, go on, how does that work when he's got rid of around 20 players?
Whatever or whoever Sinfield did or gets rid of, it wouldn’t be enough as shown by the above post.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "For this statement to make sense he must have replaced the "deadwood" cleared with the same amount of "deadwood" as he shipped out. The only other possible solution is that players not previously deemed to be deadwood now are?
I don't think that Martin, Prior, Ava or Gale are "deadwood", do you? Jury is out on Leeming and Mellor...'"
I see only inconsistency in Martin if im honest. I certainly dont see anywhere near the player others seem to do. I certainly dont see any improvement in the team at all. This team is so short of pace its unbelievable.
As ive said previously I think Gale is an important but only if he stays fit, which given he is coming off 2 major injuries is a big risk.
Do you honestly see improvement?
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Exibit A-He signed an already injured Dom Crosby an aversge L.Briscoe dont even get me started on Jordan Thompson & made Ferres Captain alkng with giving Ablett who was retiring due to injury a 2yr deal & extended Jjb's deal when he was gone as a player.
Exibhit B-Hired Furner promised to back him but then sacked him after nobody liked what Furner was doing & what he wanted to do with the squad.
Exibhit C- Hired Agar who has FAILED in every SL head Coach job gave assistent jobs to Walker Jjb & Webster who the brutal honesty os not 1 of them deserve that role nor have they earned it.
Now i think signing Hurrell Ava Martin Gale Prior are decent moves i see the potential in Leeming & Mellor but lets not forgethe signed Rhys Evans extended Crosbys deal when we had 1st hand views of his injury issues extended Donaldsons deal who although very game is very ordinary gave Lui a 2 & half deal really? & gave L.Briscoe a 3yr deal & let Merrin go without replacing him.
Thats what im privvy to & i left out fat Tui because some say that was GH.'"
So a load of opinion based stuff with no access to why those decisions were made
Crosby wasn’t injured when he signed, Ferres was according to players a very well respected player so not sure why you've got an issue with him captaining a few games (ferres has gone by the way) Jordan thompson was nothing but a short term stop gap signing.
Donaldson has been a good call, you obviously disagree but its far from a sign that Sinfield is out of his depth.
Furner was a mistake which he rectified.
Look if I’m honest its a pointless debate and we’ll never agree be ause were looking at it from different angles, Sinfield came back to a club that was in a right state less than 2 years ago, said it would take a good few years to put right and I believe him. He will make some mistakes along the way as that’s the nature of sport
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "I see only inconsistency in Martin if im honest. I certainly dont see anywhere near the player others seem to do. I certainly dont see any improvement in the team at all. This team is so short of pace its unbelievable.
As ive said previously I think Gale is an important but only if he stays fit, which given he is coming off 2 major injuries is a big risk.
Do you honestly see improvement?'"
Improvement from when?
If it’s from when Martin joined then yes, it has improved a lot.
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| Quote: christopher "Improvement from when?
If it’s from when Martin joined then yes, it has improved a lot.'"
Improved a lot???? Jesus, the last game we lost 30-4 at home! What the hell are you talking about? Stop trying to paint a rosy picture when its clearly nonsense.
Yes we are in transition and yes it will take time but for God sake we are not in a good place right now.
We should be a much better team than we are.
Head Sand In springs to mind.
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| Quote: christopher "So a load of opinion based stuff with no access to why those decisions were made
Crosby wasn’t injured when he signed, Ferres was according to players a very well respected player so not sure why you've got an issue with him captaining a few games (ferres has gone by the way) Jordan thompson was nothing but a short term stop gap signing.
Donaldson has been a good call, you obviously disagree but its far from a sign that Sinfield is out of his depth.
Furner was a mistake which he rectified.
Look if I’m honest its a pointless debate and we’ll never agree be ause were looking at it from different angles, Sinfield came back to a club that was in a right state less than 2 years ago, said it would take a good few years to put right and I believe him. He will make some mistakes along the way as that’s the nature of sport'"
Crosby joined with a knee injury mate hence him going into those bottom eights with it strapped & by his own admission which resulted in surgery.
Ferres was & always was sh#@ in a Leeds shirt ive seen more Csptain credentials in John the programme seller ( No disrespect John)
Also re-the other stuff highlighted why would we need the reasons for those calls when we know they were poor calls?
One thing Sinfield does know & has always said is the standsrd required to play for this Club then he's signed sh#te that isnt a "sporting misake" its poor judgement.
If you've got a Salary Cap do you waste it on 2 or 3 nobodies/average at best or back your Acadamy & wait for the right quality?
Do you think GH & since he arrived Sinfield have done a good job & signed the right calibre of players we require?
We may look at it from different angles but at the same time how do you get the opinion We are better than performances & results show or that Agar & co are better than i & others think they are.
Of corse we are 1 game into a new season but the same errors are there the rudderless attack the holes in the defence & going with 1 34yr old prop on the bench against the 2nd best pack in the League.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Improved a lot???? Jesus, the last game we lost 30-4 at home! What the hell are you talking about? Stop trying to paint a rosy picture when its clearly nonsense.
Yes we are in transition and yes it will take time but for God sake we are not in a good place right now.
We should be a much better team than we are.
Head Sand In springs to mind.'"
So were back to judging it on one game.
I’m not trying to paint it as a rosy picture I’m trying to look at it from where we are now to where we were or where we need to be but I think we will get there.
And again with the head in sand comments, just because I don’t think everything about the club is doing is wrong as you do doesn’t mean I have my head in the sand.
We aren’t going to agree, you don’t have a good word to say about the club it’s management or players, which is of course your right, doesn’t mean I have to agree.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Crosby joined with a knee injury mate hence him going into those bottom eights with it strapped & by his own admission which resulted in surgery.
Ferres was & always was sh#@ in a Leeds shirt ive seen more Csptain credentials in John the programme seller ( No disrespect John)
Also re-the other stuff highlighted why would we need the reasons for those calls when we know they were poor calls?
One thing Sinfield does know & has always said is the standsrd required to play for this Club then he's signed sh#te that isnt a "sporting misake" its poor judgement.
If you've got a Salary Cap do you waste it on 2 or 3 nobodies/average at best or back your Acadamy & wait for the right quality?
Do you think GH & since he arrived Sinfield have done a good job & signed the right calibre of players we require?
We may look at it from different angles but at the same time how do you get the opinion We are better than performances & results show or that Agar & co are better than i & others think they are.
Of corse we are 1 game into a new season but the same errors are there the rudderless attack the holes in the defence & going with 1 34yr old prop on the bench against the 2nd best pack in the League.'"
I didn’t say we are better than the performancees and results show.
I said we are better than before Martin joined.
Do I think we have signed the right calibre of player since Sinfield joined, not 100% no, do I think we have a better squad than when he joined, yes, absolutely.
I think im going to leave it here as it’s an utterly pointless debate.
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