Not sure what some on here were expecting - Hull away is a tough fixture. Losing at home to Wakey was big, and now London next week is massive.

Conceding 30 points per game really isn’t acceptable at this level. There aren’t any quick fixes unfortunately.

Thing is, we’ve offloaded some players who have landed straight into mid-table Championship sides, and there are some others who would probably go the same way still in the first team. How Leeds have arrived at this is a head scratcher.

What I'd expect is that the team would get the most out of themselves more often than not regardless of result. That's not happened. They've arrived at this by signing very average players over the last few years, namely the project signings in the forwards. It's been a long term decline not overnigh.

We're not good enough, but Furner needs time. It was always going to take more than 3 or signings to sort this out. The squad needs a overhaul in personnel, and in mental fortitude.

The question is whether we just have a bang average, frustrating but progressive season, or we end up in another relegation battle.

I’m not sure who else in the squad comes in to improve the side either.

I feel that Furners overuse of the word 'there' is going to be tipped over the edge tonight!

Stupid thing is. I was looking at the fantasy superleague stats today and alot of the Leeds players appear top 3, top 5 for their position in terms of points scored this season. Whatever it is, theyre just not working as a team.

I fully expected to start slow and not win many if any out of the first 6, but I am a bit ed off with the team in the last 2 outings, blame Furner all you like but he’s not the one being lazy in defence and givIng stupid penalties away, I don’t think we touched the ball for about 18 minutes in that first half and they scored two trys after us giving back to back penalties away.

We need a big performance next week, we cannot afford to lose games we are ‘expected’ To win

The dream team is e then cannot think of any of our players who are top 5 in their position.

Someone said this week a good barometer is how many of our players get into the top teams the answer is non.

Battering London, IF we do, only serves to paper over the gaping chasms, never mind cracks. Someone needs to come in and send a rocket up the players a rse.
Who that would be though is anyone's guess... but it sure as strawberries isn't Furner.

We need new players, the rebuild is clearly more than a 1-year project.
Might be more than 2 years the way this is looking!

19s game been postponed; shame because one or two could have put their hand up for inclusion next week.

To be honest I think it’s up to the senior squad to turn this around in the short term. The younger lads are in some cases better prospects than the men, but the physicality gap is very large.

Furner is the right man, but has such a pile of dog poo to work with it’s impossible to get it right this season. GH has been asleep at the wheel for years and it’s been slowly coming home to roost as the last golden generation drifted off.

We will do well to avoid the bottom two or three places this season and need to be recruiting now for next year, to get it right. Furner also needs his own back room staff

Again, lucky that the Salford game was brought forward otherwise we’d be 0/5 right now.

I reckon next week is the time to give a few players a chance. Hopefully we will bring in someone that will help this squad.

These first team players need dropping there needs to be some consequence for being this e. I think I could bob a shirt on and do better than a lot of this team.

I agree with the above regarding back room staff would like to see lowes and the like gone bring in own staff

Got to give Furner more time but it has been a disappointing couple of weeks after encouraging signs at Saints.
Performances got worse after Sinfield and Lowes took over from McDermott last season and after the last 2 weeks, are not looking any better so far this season, despite laying out on marquee players. Some questionable recruitment and retention have taken place recently, including under BM, but Sinfield and Furner have their work cut out to turn this around.

Since 2015 GF win we have lost Hardaker, Moon, Hall, Sinfield, McGuire, Kylie, Aiton, Burrow, Peacock, Garbutt, Delaney and Jimmy K. plus Ablett, Cuthbertson and JJB are on last legs.

As others have said this has been a decline with little teal quality brought in and only interrupted by 2017 win which looks more like a weird miracle.

We need to give Furner time, we have no established , settled spine And a pack that will struggle in most games this year.

We just need any kind of win next week. Confidence looks very low. I’d be reluctant to chuck the kids into this, the first team need to step up.