Not sure what anyone sees in ferres, thought he was terrible again last night, dont think any player contributed more to there comeback at the start of the 2nd half...stupid penalty on 4th tackle, kick into touch and while he certainly wasnt the only one, 2 absolutly pathetic tackle attempts for the walmsley and thompson trys ..awful.

Stats for both our second rows make abysmal reading, no tackle busts between them, less than 4 meters per carry each, not sure how you even manage that low a meters per carry but they did and some poor defence.

Thought when given a fair chance our attacking structures look to be coming on great, as a big critic of mcdermott and his lack of structure, this is sumthing im pleased to see.

Dwyer was very good, thought his distribution was first class, we know about his running game, which was good again.

Tui, starting to look very good with the ball, but his defence is shocking, aswel as working massivly on it, its maby time to shift him and myler on D, teams go to there left way more clinicly than going to there right, might mask his defficiencys a bit more.

Hurrell, very good, just wish he'd concentrate a bit more with loose balls, twice simple pick ups were knocked on and led to trys..although one was a clear double movement, which takes me on to hicks

Complete shambles of a reff performance, thought the one at wigan was one of the worst id seen, this was another level, as much as our second half defence didnt deserve to be rewarded with a win, we would of got one, if hicks had done his job even close to decent, he's either useless or biased, after that pathetic call on loloheas 'knock on' for releasing the ball after the no try, which happens all the time and is never, ever punished... im not sure which.

Rhinos played very well,but a shocker from the officials.This was a match we should have one,but a couple of soft tries put an end to that.Will we get the 50/50 decisions when back at Headingley??

not sure what peteru brings myself

Still work to do on the squad, but we knew that already. Very promising with the ball when we have good field position, but struggling to make metres in our own half.

I’d like to see more bite (no pun intended) in our defence, we seem a little passive there, and some of the 1-2-1 misses are really costing us.

We’re making progress.

https://www.rugby-league.com/superleagu ... port/95666 Stats from the game. Pretty much confirming what's been said. Poor defence on the right hand side, and not enough go forward.

https://www.rugby-league.com/superleagu ... port/95666 Stats from the game. Pretty much confirming what's been said. Poor defence on the right hand side, and not enough go forward.

The Refs call needs addressing not just for last nights game but going forward into the season.
There's absolutely no reason for the VR to intervene during a game and correct these poor decisions the officials are supposed to work as a team and it's time we had a VR at EVERY SL Ground just employ ex-players it doesn't have to take 3hrs either.
I agree our defence was weak at times last night but overall I thought the 17 on duty grafted id be looking at Cam Smith to replace Ward(will he ever complete a season).
Id also go with Merrin at 13 with Ferres/Cam Smith in the SR.
It's pointless highlighting Tui or Sutty in D that whole right edge needs work both positional and tackling.

Yeah dosnt run his weight, 6'5 and well over 17 st, but gets stopped on impact way too easily for me

Agree. McDermott mentioned it in comms also.

Tui made 8 tackles and missed 6. That's almost Ben Walker esc.

any truth in the rumour that tui doesn't intend letting go of the ball until noon on the sunday after a game the next time he scores a try?

Hicks would still give a knock on

For me their first try was a clear second effort, arm lift double movement no try.
For their second I thought Lomax was in front of Percival who passed forward before Peteru got a touch.
I've never seen a held up decision then given as a knock on for releasing the ball in 40+ years of watching.
I don't believe refs are deliberately against one team or another but I reckon Hicks & Thaler suffer from unconscious bias when officiating our matches.
Of course if we'd defended better it wouldn't have mattered but in a tight game these things hurt. As a mate of mine has just pointed out, decisions will even out over a season but if you get them in your favour when it doesn't matter so much then it is hard to take.

So many inept decisions last night i have never in over 50 years of watching been as incensed and whatever Hicks gave for the first try the video ref should have over ruled it as it was as clear as day a double movement . The last decision he got wrong when we were camped on their line and they knocked on was just as much a shocker . It just seemed like whenever he went to the video ref it was i have a try for Saints but no try for Leeds . Saying all that as pessimistic as i have been pre season and for the first couple of games , we have shown some good signs with ball in hand and whilst there is a long way to go and we are still 3 or 4 players short of a Trophy winning side it looks like the entertainment part of the game could be back and hopefully the crowds will go up . Great support from the Leeds fans last night !

Aaaaaawwww