I wonder if this new stadium redevelopment will be a financial millstone as regards signing players ?

shouldn't be. if a club like Leeds can't afford to spend the cap, stand or no stand, something's wrong.

I don’t think many teams have a thread running from 7 years ago from a year into a new coaches regime that constantly calls for the coaches head using the same rhetoric throughout one of the best run of winning trophies the club has ever had.

Of course this board is for venting frustrations and of course everyone is entitled to an opinion but this place is so overly negative sometimes its like a parody

100% agree on this.

There’s having an opinion and offering analysis about that opinion. Then there is spouting the same tired old comments about our coach and players that has no basis for an opinion that when challenged falls apart.

On a lighter note Powell took a leaf out of Brians book last night. He only used 3 subs. lol

That thread gets dragged up more often than not by the idiots on here who only come on this board when we lose or away fans on the wind up.like i say, it is the same as all the other boards just that we seem to have a classic all in one place thread that due to its title has stood the test of time.

I agree about the negativity at times but losing at home to a very poor giants team minus their best player is bound to see reactions of that nature, no matter our current squad depletion.

No structure, No organisation, No gameplan, clueless in attack, soft in defence, poor use of subs, dreadful rugby for most of his tenure. These are the things i base my opinion on, which of those arnt true? If you rate him thats fine, But to say theres no basis for the criticism of mcdermott is laughable and plain wrong.

Wow, why are you even a fan? Do you just turn up to the finals? Like the 4 Grand finals he’s taken us to, the 4 world club challenges, the 4 challenge cup finals?

No Structure, No Organisation, No gameplan? Yep, we’ve lost every game 80 - nil under McD. Not a single player understands what they’re doing, it’s so obvious. Thank you.

Clueless in attack? - Myler topped the assists chart last week. But you know, we’ve not scored a try since McD came to the club so yeah, we’re totally clueless as we’ve been nilled in every game as mentioned previously.

Soft in defence - yeah, we’ve conceded 8 more points than castleford this season. Totally soft.

Poor use of subs - and I guess your coaching masterclasses you hold every week for the 11 other super league coaches is why they’re all more successful than we are.

Dreadful rugby for most of his tenure - damn it, we keep coming last in the league. Our rugby is so damn awful. I mean, holding Cas to nearly nil and producing one of the best GF performances I’ve seen is so damn dreadful.

But yeah, keep believing your poop tinted glasses. Or you know, go support someone else. Cheerio.

It has been hard to watch for a lot of his era though, i don't think you can argue that to be honest. Yes, he has been great and getting us over the line when it matters but apart from the first half of 2015 it generally hasn't been entertaining. If you think it has been, great for you but iv'e not enjoyed most of the seasons with my eye up until those play off series.

Wow, what a baby....As i guessed , no meaningful argument to any of them, didnt quite forsee the utter childishness that came with it, that was an unexpected and enjoyable bonus. The go support someone else and only here for the glory lines are always the most cringe worthy when spewd out by the self believing superfan on there high horse with others who dare voice criticism or frustration with whats goin on at the club. You clearly dont like anyone to have a different opinion than you, maybe boards like this arnt the best place for you.

If you like to take the sit and smile regardless approach, good for you, clap your hands at the shiny tropheys. Other fans can see the limitations in mcdermott's coaching ability, and as is there right, express it.

It’s frustrating when we lose but it’s been an absolute joy to watch some of the greatest players of the super league era week in week out. Learning from those losses and then when it matters putting all that experience into winning 6/8 finals. Also seeing us win the 2012 WCC at HQ was up there in the greatest performances we’ve had. I have been thoroughly entertained and McD is the best SL coach. If and when someone overtakes his achievements we can have someone on his level to compare him with. But until then, there isn’t anyone close to him.

Where is your meaningful analysis of the criticisms you spout? Or can you just say the things you did without any supporting argument. Then when someone rips apart your points say that there wasn’t any meaningful argument?

Yes, I enjoy going to watch the team I support win or lose. That’s what being a fan is. But if you’re being some sort of snowflake every time we lose then yes, I’m going to call you out when you voice criticism with no basis to those critiques.

What is exactly going on at the club? The most successful coach presiding over the most successful club going through a multi-million pound redevelopment of our stadium to build a legacy for years to come. Damn it, why oh why are things SO bad????

He has a great record, perhaps the greatest of any coach in our history as far as how many trophies have been won, no doubt about it and for that he will always get credit from me.That said, he has had some of the best players we have ever had to work with during that time and his reign has also coincided with a drop in standards at the top of of SL which has imo opened the door for us to be able to win as much as we have done.

2011 and 2012 we were crap though nearly all the regular season and barely scraped 5th. Yes, it was magnificent to pull two titles out the fire from there and therefore easy to forget the fact we were so bad. 2013 2014 we were again pretty average in SL and i cant remember a classic game over those two years, and Mac probably only saved his job during that period by pulling out a first CC in years. 2016, need i say more? 2017 a hard grind to finish 2nd in a SL where most of the top teams were poor bar Cas. Like i say, nothing against the man, i have huge respect for him and he deserves to go down in history as a great but apart from 2015 the seasons have generally been a drag and thankfully been saved by the GF nights.

Just to finish and emphasise my point, during the doug Laughton era early to mid 90s we won sod all and were the brides maid to wigan a lot but you generally knew when you showed up on a matchday you would get entertained and i still hold that era in as high a regard as any during the SL era due to that fact.

There you go again "Thats what being a fan is" says who? You? I didnt relize there was a set rule on how to be a fan. Can you not accept that other people dont agree with your view of what being a fan is about, and that voicing there opinion about things they see is acceptable, even if its negative?

I can see why your happy with mcdermott, IE the tropheys. Your failing to see and stated , there is no basis for any criticism of him and any argument to the contrary falls down when challenged, this is complete rubbish imo. You havnt pulled me up on anything, i told you the basis of my opinion and your response was child like, albeit amusing.

Mcdermott out.