This game has Tom Briscoe mom written all over it.
Can you bet on mom?

You implied Hull have achieved little or nothing, fortunately you're in a minority of Leeds fans, most see Hull as a good side and think Friday will be close.

Agreed Leeds competed well in the league (except V Castleford as you've noted), they may have reached the CC semi-final but effectively by taking advantage of receiving three byes. As others I think have said Leeds have only faced one acid test in the post Sinfield/Peacock era and it was a test they comprehensively failed.

Time will tell if lessons have been learned in time for Friday.

You must be on a wind up or you cant read...Nearly every post iv put in this thread iv said hull are a good team who are capable of winning the grand final and that friday will be a game between TWO good teams that could be decided by the smallest margins and i didnt imply anything..I was quite clear,leeds thankfully won grand finals from relatively poor league finishes...Hull havnt dont that yet,have they??...Your challenge cup wins are a great achievment but they have nothing to do with what i or the post i was replying to were discussing.

Yeah agreed bout the cup run,we were lucky with the draw,although we'v been due a bit of luck after years of drawing super league teams. I just dont see it as such a big statement or sign of where the team stands because we lost a big game,hull are a good team who were better than us on the day,it happens,if we lose on friday i still wouldnt see it as a sign we cant win a big one. We lost big games with sinfield and peacock aswel,2005 we lost the challenge cup final and grand final,won nothing in 2006 but then got back to winning things in 2007. I dont think everything is rosey or anything like that,theres deffinate improvements that could be made,but i think we'r as srong or stronger than any team in the league at the moment with one exception.

The lesson we need to learn imo is how to deal with cas,whilst hull and saints seem to have worked them out to the degree that theyr competitive games that can go either way...We seem no closer to being able to deal with them as we were when they were putting cricket scores on us in 2016.

Yes despite their cup wins which were great achievements, one competition doesn't always translate to the other as ourselves and Warrington have shown. They did us in the 2010 & 2012 cup finals quite easily but we did them in the 2011 playoffs and 2012 GF.

One key difference is that with the cup you can have 3/4 weeks to plan for that game and opponent and this time last week Hull didn't even know if they'd be in the playoffs. Between Hull's first cup game and the final they lost 7 of their 13 league games which may suggest they were planning and looking ahead to the cup games whereas they've not had that luxury the last few weeks.

Its the first one

Match them in the forwards and Leeds will win.Easier said than done,Bentham is a huge positive for them as they play him very well.Looking forward to all 3 games coming up.Can Cas fulfill their promise.? Fridays game looks a 21-20 type of game and mpg is what it is .Good luck to Leeds and thankyou for Danny M next year..

Well that is one thing we should all remember on Friday regardless of the result. Two legends in McGuire and Burrow will have played their last game for Leeds at Headingley and maybe even their last game altogether in Burrow if we lose. Likewise in victory it'll be Ellis' final game too. All three deserve a great send off post match whatever happens.

Yeah its got to be

Absolutely. We will be lucky to see anything similar again as those 2.

Agree with Biff and tiger tot and a few others. Hull are favourites for mine. They have an experienced side who have played well in recent big games. At their best they have a better pack, kicking game and full back. If you have just the first 2 you will likely win a big game at end of season when it could be wet.
Hope Leeds can prove me wrong but I expect Hull will be good and Think Leeds will need best display of year to get through or Hull lose discipline. An early red card for Watts would even things up

Not at all, let's hope for a good fair game, I was simply questioning your opinion that FC haven't proven anything.

Haha still at it. Yeah indeed, a good fair game between two pretty good teams.

Still at what?

Either flogging a wind up to death or being possibly the dumbest lifeform on the planet...For the sake of mankind i hope its the first one. Good luck tomorrow friend.