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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "wrencat - BJB used to play for Leeds remember? He's a good finisher, but my point still stands. If either of your wingers wanted to go to the NRL they'd have to stack on muscle just to compete. Hall OTOH could fit in straight away because in terms of what is needed from a winger in the NRL he's got the full package.
TBH its a bit sad that smaller fast wingers aren't as valuable as they were (Regan Grace is lovely to watch but he needs to bulk up hugely to survive). I genuinely think the game's a bit poorer for it. Even an Offiah would struggle nowadays, although he'd no doubt specialise in the acrobatic finishes.'"
Is the problem if you bulk up too much you lose some of your pace which defeats the object of having a fast winger.
I know it is part of the modern game but I still think it is a shame that modern day wingers have to act like an extra forward at times.
As you rightly say the likes of Offiah would struggle in today's game, but seeing him in full flight was a great sight, which is something we have lost from the modern game to an extent. |
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The thing is though that overall speed doesn't really matter as much as it used to because there isn't the space to use it. What matters is acceleration getting up to speed over 10-20-30 metres and that comes from power. Even Rob Burrow with his height and low centre of gravity doesnt have great top end speed.
Frankly having s winger that has great pace over 100metres isn't all that useful.
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McDermott confirmed both Ward & Goldong back in tomorrow.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Half a yard of space ??
You need to watch MCB or BJB' s highlights.
They have both been scoring tries with just the ball on the ground and being fully airborne.
The pair of them only need inches, not half a yard ![]()
You do remember BJB played in front of us longer than he has for your mob. We know who he is.
MCB is on the crest of a wave. I don't give a fook how he goes in a one off game on Saturday or half a dozen games. It's all about longevity. BJB has had a career of rocks an diamonds, he's looked both great and $hit in GF's. The other bloke has done nowt. Let's come back to him in a few years and recap.
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| Quote: Frosties. "McDermott confirmed both Ward & Goldong back in tomorrow.'"
Where? Linky links? |
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| Quote: sgtwilko "You do remember BJB played in front of us longer than he has for your mob. We know who he is.'"
So according to your logic he hasn't improved since playing with our mob then. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The thing is though that overall speed doesn't really matter as much as it used to because there isn't the space to use it. What matters is acceleration getting up to speed over 10-20-30 metres and that comes from power. Even Rob Burrow with his height and low centre of gravity doesnt have great top end speed.
Frankly having s winger that has great pace over 100metres isn't all that useful.'" You have spouted some crap over the years but this is a real gem. |
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When BJB was with us I think touching the corner post still wasn't allowed, allowing wingers to get away with touching the corner flag has helped a lot of wingers look better than they are. Personally not a fan of it and would prefer a return to players not being allowed to touch the corner flag.
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he's no better, or worse, than he was at leeds. he's a good player but can be inconsistent at times, sometimes in the same game.
I always had the feel I g there was always a mistake in him
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Where? Linky links?'"
On an interview on BBC Radio Leeds. |
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| Quote: tad rhino "he's no better, or worse, than he was at leeds. he's a good player but can be inconsistent at times, sometimes in the same game.
I always had the feel I g there was always a mistake in him'"
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| Quote: tad rhino "he's no better, or worse, than he was at leeds. he's a good player but can be inconsistent at times, sometimes in the same game.
I always had the feel I g there was always a mistake in him'"
Wow I have yet to see a player who does not have a mistake in him |
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but some have more than others.
but you knew what I meant. just being your usual self
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Half a yard of space ??
You need to watch MCB or BJB' s highlights.
They have both been scoring tries with just the ball on the ground and being fully airborne.
The pair of them only need inches, not half a yard ![]()
Thing is Hall very rarely if ever needs to put on a highlight reel dive, he can usually just bully his way over
I agree that he no longer has the speed he had a few years a go, but he still has enough to finish the majority of time he is put in the clear.
Also, a major reason he keeps getting picked for England is he is far better defensively and positionally than the majority of SL wingers, so to say he is behind your two wingers is pretty ridiculous
Would still have Bish back over Briscoe though
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| Quote: Frosties. "McDermott confirmed both Ward & Goldong back in tomorrow.'"
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Briscoe - Watkins - Sutcliffe - Hall
McGuire - Moon
Garbutt - Parcell - Cuthbertson
Ferres - Ward
JJB
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