Did I say anything about caring? How can you have an opinion on a performance that you didn't attend and wasn't on the TV? To just say meah not bothered when you have not seen is ridiculous.

Macdermott got a lesson in tactics. Lowest attacked in the centres all night. Good job I didn't pay to watch that garbage.
How bad was tom briscoe? Jesus, rather Luke played next week.
Any sympathy I had with bulls fans went tonight with beer throwing and racist comments aimed at JJB

Also forgot to add. When it was raised as a concern last week, Andy Gilder said a team has never lost a match because of low completion rates. It was a silly thing to say at the time, but completely shown how wrong tonight.

More worrying though is the pattern.

A poor Bradford team beat an even worse Rhino's side, resting six players was the wrong tactics as the youngsters can't really make that step up at the moment, with Sinfield being absent and Jones Bishop crocked after 20 minutes it was never going to be easy against a team which had nothing to lose and we're playing their cup final.
I'm a firm believer of taking a winning mentality into a cup semi final and it wouldn't have taken much to knock over this Bulls side by bringing in more of the first team. That said I've never seen as many dropped balls in one game by a Leeds team it must have been around 30 times in an 80 minute game. As for Roby.........well we won't go there he was shocking, he gave the Bulls a great deal of latitude with the 10 metres, Gale was probably getting back just the six metres, still you have to beat what's in front of you, the Bulls did that and fair play to them as for Leeds let's hope they're focussing on next week otherwise this week will just be a bigger waste than it turned out to be.

I heard on the radio so I did hear how poor things were tonight. Just irks me a bit when people who do attend every week think that they are the only ones entitled to an opinion.(Apologies if this is not yourself and not what you was getting at)

If you didn't know the SL table you would think we were the relegated team it was that sh##!
They wanted it more simple as that if we win the semi next week then it will quickly be forgotten but lose and questions need asking throughout from top to bottom.
As a side McGuire will never be a Captain and he was woeful tonight by far the worse player on the pitch.
Achurch would have been better staying on the bench rather than coming back on he was just sh##.
Kirke again offered nothing for a senior player & the youngsters struggled.
I thought Hardaker was decent but as long as Roby and Child were involved it was a clear free for all with the high shots and grapples on him.
Our worse performance at Headingley in years imo this was against a team already relegated but they showed up we didn't.

Leeds were rubbish. I don't think that has anything to do with tactics or coaches. The players didn't play well enough. There were far too many dropped passes, often coming from poor passes. Those poor passes often coming from senior players and it's those senior players that let the side down tonight, maybe Delaney & Hardaker apart.

I'm constantly frustrated by McGuire & Burrow. If they were inexperienced halves I could understand their lack of structure and composure. It's as if they can't function without Sinfield to do the leadership part.
They should have led the team tonight and didn't.

I thought Singleton was superb early on but didn't notice him after that. Did he come back on?
Thought Aiton looked good running from dummy half.

Kirke was very poor. I've often defended him as he's been playing a certain role in the side. But he was a senior member of that pack tonight and he provided nothing other than errors.

Having said all that, I think the refereeing was appalling. Allowed constant offsides and holding down. Numerous dodgy decisions. And got "done" by Bradford's tactics to slow the game at every opportunity, both at the tackle and by constantly kicking the ball away. He spoke to Bradford about it when they kicked the ball away at a drop out early in the first half, then did nothing about the next 6 times they did it.
Weak and poor refereeing that turned what would have been a below average game into a rubbish one.

Disgraceful performance. We were that bad I'm pretty confident that London would have beaten us tonight.

I was worried when the 19 was announced but more so when the 17 was announced and saw who our coach had selected in the centres.

There will be plenty not that bothered about the loss of 2 points and come out with the usual stuff about we can win the GF from anywhere and next week is more important but I completely disagree with the thinking from our coach tonight.

We have been poor and either losing or just just scraping wins for a while now.

With only a maximum of 7 games left before the playoffs then tonight should have been the start of trying to build some momentum for next week and the run in to the playoffs.

Bradford were always going to be competitive tonight after the Wigan win, the last Bulls v Leeds derby for a while and the weather conditions so we should have played a stronger team and used it to build for next week with an intense battle to get us ready for the semi

Fair do's rest someone with an injury worry but we rested too many tonight. Lots of players have had 'rests' this season already with injuries or being rotated/rested so there was simply no need.

Despite what the coach came out with midweek we all know that even the ones out tonight with so called niggles (moon, peacock & Ablett) would have played tonight had that been a GF eliminator) and even if they were definitely injured, resting Hall and Watkins was a step too far.

I don't understand this mentality of resting players for a CC semi anyway as we don't rest players for a GF eliminator with the hope of certain key players being fresh should we get through to the GF the following week.

We've proved before with the playoff runs to GF victory from 5th that this group seem to prefer and do better with the intense battles week on week to make them battle hardened and ready for the 'war' ahead.

This philosophy should have been shown again tonight IMO

Tonight and the next league game against London should have given us the springboard to have the Hub Cap in our own destiny but we blew it.

IF and its a big IF, we do beat Warrington, what's the betting London get their first win of the season against us the week before Wembley.

Truly shocking tonight and we got what we deserved....nothing

It's performances like this and others in the league in recent seasons that make me think the new structure is a good idea as from next season when you carry your points tally over into the final 8's , teams are simply not going to be able to risk dropping off in intensity and losing points with the attitude of ' it doesn't really matter, nothing is won until October' etc

Very, very few half-backs keep playing to top level into their mid-30s. Lockyer and, to an extent, Langer are the only exceptions I can think of in the modern game. Andrew Johns, Brad Fittler, Stacey Jones, Sean Long, and before that Schofield, Gregory, Edwards, Lewis, Sterling (ok, Cliff Lyons is another exception) were all finished or as good as finished by the time they were 32. No shame in Danny stepping down.

Of course I saw it live. Wish I hadn't though.

I've been a huge fan of McGuire for years and he'll always be a Leeds legend, more so than the likes of Schofield even, but it's time to step down before he ends up being remembered for the wrong reasons. Tonight wasn't even his worst game this year.