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And what about JJB?

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Not really a bad performance from anyone in a Leeds shirt.

Moon looked impressive, JP was the best forward on the pitch, Mags was looking sharp and Watkins just gets better each game he plays.

Hardaker, JJB and Delaney flew under the radar a little but it was good to see Hall come in, looking for work.

Would have liked to see Ellis play, don’t think he’d have made 30 points difference but it might have been a slightly different game with him on the pitch.

Sinny deserved his MoM.

Ganson looked dandy in his effeminate chessboard shirt but still seemed to blow up for some odd reasons (will have to watch the game back to find out why).

Oh… and how big did Pitts look? He was never that size when he was with us.

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Was not expecting such a solid defensive display after watching us against bulls. Well done boys keep it up. Glad to see the RFL dressing Ganson like a clown .

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Most satisfactory work out for the WCC. Had to work hard against good strong defence in 1st half and in 2nd half gave the ball more air in attack with some nice offloads.

Key men Sinny, Mags, JP and Burrow all looked sharp with IMO Burrow just edging MOM.

Great organisation in defence and some good work from all the new boys with Moon's class in the centre.

Well done to Brian Mac and the coaches for some good preseason training.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "You told us peacock was past it 4 years ago.'"


I told you Peacock was shot at international level, and he was.

Not my fault you neither listen nor understand.

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Quote: rhinoms "JC-So by your reckoning his form never dropped then??
Well he looked way off against Wire (a) ST's(a) Wigan (h+a) ordinary at best against the likes of Wakey away ,Giants away etc etc.
The figures and stats dont show how he and our pack got battered at times last year and showed their age whether he thrives on 60mins+ a game last year showed he couldn't maintain it and the actual game footage shows that not numbers.
You can be good across the board in numbers but actual perfiormances are what count stats are a guideline not the be all and end all.
I stick by my opinion and the opinion of what i saw live at games last year we wont get away with it this year especially as both he and Kylie are 1 year closer to retirement and the brutal roles they play insists they cant go on forever.
Pre-planning prevents p!$$ poor performance and imo we should start the process to prepare for the loss of the 2 now.'"


I believe I already said JP had a bit of a wobble when not fully fit but that apart had a superb season.

We were discussing JP's form not whether our pack "got battered at times" You don't like stats when they prove your judgement to be wrong. What they show is that JP did maintain his performances as 694 tackles, 2819 metres gained, 438 carries and 55 offloads clearly shows. You cannot just dismiss the reality of this because it goes against your point.

JP's great form and the end of the season and after the above huge effort during the season is totally at odds with your judgement that "flogging" him has a detrimental effect on his form.

Perhaps a visit to Specsavers before your next live game will improve your 'views'.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Well lstnight seem's to have pu paid to our usual Hull troll's for awhile.I hope Gaz Ellis is ot too badly injured.

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Quote: Fat Boy "Ganson looked dandy in his effeminate chessboard shirt but still seemed to blow up for some odd reasons (will have to watch the game back to find out why).'"


Watch and enjoy but I doubt if you'll be any the wiser.

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thought your lads played well last night n your line speed was very fast. the scoreline flattered you in the end after we collapsed with 20mins to go (which was very dissapointing).
you are the template super league teams should follow. you gave youth a chance years ago and the backbone of your team has an understanding of each others game that only time can give you.
i hate losing to you n despise cheap shot bailey, but good luck in the wcc

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Quote: Eddie Marks "thought your lads played well last night n your line speed was very fast. the scoreline flattered you in the end after we collapsed with 20mins to go (which was very dissapointing).
you are the template super league teams should follow. you gave youth a chance years ago and the backbone of your team has an understanding of each others game that only time can give you.
i hate losing to you n despise cheap shot bailey, but good luck in the wcc'"


Very benevolent of you. For the good of the game I do hope the likes of Hull (and Salford) can break into the top 4 over the next couple of seasons ...not at Leeds' expense though icon_wink.gif

Bailey does his job very very effectively, much to the chagrin of opposition supporters icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "Very benevolent of you. For the good of the game I do hope the likes of Hull (and Salford) can break into the top 4 over the next couple of seasons ...not at Leeds' expense though haha,it wouldnt be at ur expense for a few years yet, unless sinfield burrows n maguire retire.
sinfield will take some serious replacing tho.
dont think hes the best player in sl but defo the best at leading his team

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Quote: Eddie Marks "haha,it wouldnt be at ur expense for a few years yet, unless sinfield burrows n maguire retire.
sinfield will take some serious replacing tho.
dont think hes the best player in sl but defo the best at leading his team'"


The recent Golden Boot award would suggest differently.
If not the best he's certainly the most influential. Leads his team round the park, scores crucial tries & kicks crucial goals.
Who do you believe is better?

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Quote: Old Feller "The recent Golden Boot award would suggest differently.
If not the best he's certainly the most influential. Leads his team round the park, scores crucial tries & kicks crucial goals.
Who do you believe is better?'"

the man can play,and play very well.but he isnt the most skillfull player in sl or the world. but as i put, the best leader by far, and possibly the most innfluential.
i just hope he leads england as successfully in the world cup.
brough,tomkins,cronk,slater to name a few with more talent, though brough isnt consistant, on his day he can be unplayable,esp his kicking game.
and i know u loiners will never give tomkins much credit , but he is dynamic

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Quote: Eddie Marks "the man can play,and play very well.but he isnt the most skillfull player in sl or the world. but as i put, the best leader by far, and possibly the most innfluential.
i just hope he leads england as successfully in the world cup.
brough,tomkins,cronk,slater to name a few with more talent, though brough isnt consistant, on his day he can be unplayable,esp his kicking game.
and i know u loiners will never give tomkins much credit , but he is dynamic'"


You said the best player, not the most skillful, but I would still argue that Sinfield is more skillful than Tomkins or any of those you mention above. What some of those have is outstanding ability in specific areas. Brough's in play kicking, Tomkins as an elusive runner, Cronk erm not sure how good he would be in an ordinary side - Cameron Smith would be a better candidate in my view. Slater another outstanding broken field runner but like Tomkins vulnerable under the high ball.
In addition Sinfield's oustanding captaincy & innate decency as a man puts him head & shoulders above all those you mention.
In time Tomkins may be the all round best player in Superleague, would I have him at Leeds, you bet I would.
Let's see him do it over a decade too then he'll stand comparison with Sinfield.

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outstanding captain with a nucleus of players he grew up with as a team, and who consequently know each others games inside out, assists his abilities to lead and play.
could he be dropped into any half decent team in the world and have the same impact.?
like i said i think hes outstanding and wish hed come through hulls ranks and played for us
its the nucleus of your team growing up together and additions through the ranks that gives you your strength.
im just glad roby n tomkins didnt come through your ranks as well.

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