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| Quote: ThePrinter "I've heard a lot of reasons from people over the couple of years when they've been turned down for a job. Everything from 'They won't give me a chance because of my age' to 'I must be too qualified for them and that lowly job'.
I can't really recall ever hearing somebody say 'maybe they just hired someone who was simply better than me'.
Sometimes the job market and employers need to stop being used as excuses and look at the individual.'"
Sometimes there are viable excuses. When I finished uni I struggled to get some jobs as I didn't have the experience, and some lower jobs because I was over qualified and would leave fairly quickly. ( granted I did keep looking and got 4 crap jobs to put me on)
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| Quote: El Diablo "I can't even be bothered counting the number of words it took me to say what you have accomplished in 3.
Well played sir.'"
That tends to happen when you get rather obsessive about finishing all your sentences in less than 140 characters...
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| Quote: El Diablo "That is neitehr "ganging up" or "horrific."'"
I was been very vague about who was ganging up on me and I’d never tar you with the same brush as some on this thread.
I welcome criticism as much as anyone – hence why I didn’t give Gotcha a hard time for raising a point back in the YEP thread. But what I don’t welcome is all out insults. It’s totally uncalled for as I’m sure most on here would agree.
But the verbal’s can carry on. I’ll just man up and laugh that I can provoke people like this
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "
But the verbal’s can carry on. I’ll just man up and laugh that I can provoke people like this
Glad you said this Damo 'cos I was just thinking along the lines that you really need to lighten up a little. (I know this can be difficult for some with Asperger's)
The truth is unemployment is always gonna be a bit of a political hot potato. It's one of those areas where it's easier to blame the victims than pinpoint the real causes.
I work in a school where for every low-paid support job advertised there are quite literally dozens of serious applicants, some of them quite highly qualified. This is lost on those who swallow the Torygraph/Daily Mail 'they're all scroungers' line (usually backing up their ill-founded prejudices with some skimpy anecdotal evidence).
Having said that, I do find the idea of paying someone to go and look for work in Brazil more than as little ludicrous.
Now if you said my mate is desperate for the bus fare to go to an interview on the other side of Leeds, I might be more easily persuaded to help.
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| OK to put a point on this debate. The unemployed fall into one of three categories.
1) Unemployed but doing everything in their power to get a job.
2) Unemployed because they are either physically or mentally unable to work
3) Lazy doalls who refuse to try and get a job, instead insisting that the predicament that they are in is down to everyone else while believing that they are entirely blameless or not even trying to help themselves.
P.S. still waiting for PM's regarding donations for my holiday because 'I'm a nice guy who gives money to charity'.
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| Quote: Fat Boy "'I'm a nice [sizegut[/sizewho gives money to charity'.'"
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| Quote: Chief Stinkwort "The truth is unemployment is always gonna be a bit of a political hot potato. It's one of those areas where it's easier to blame the victims than pinpoint the real causes.
I work in a school where for every low-paid support job advertised there are quite literally dozens of serious applicants, some of them quite highly qualified. This is lost on those who swallow the Torygraph/Daily Mail 'they're all scroungers' line (usually backing up their ill-founded prejudices with some skimpy anecdotal evidence).'"
Absolutely spot on
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| Quote: Chief Stinkwort "Glad you said this Damo 'cos I was just thinking along the lines that you really need to lighten up a little. (I know this can be difficult for some with Asperger's)
The truth is unemployment is always gonna be a bit of a political hot potato. It's one of those areas where it's easier to blame the victims than pinpoint the real causes.
I work in a school where for every low-paid support job advertised there are quite literally dozens of serious applicants, some of them quite highly qualified. This is lost on those who swallow the Torygraph/Daily Mail 'they're all scroungers' line (usually backing up their ill-founded prejudices with some skimpy anecdotal evidence).
Having said that, I do find the idea of paying someone to go and look for work in Brazil more than as little ludicrous.
Now if you said my mate is desperate for the bus fare to go to an interview on the other side of Leeds, I might be more easily persuaded to help.'"
Something very much like this.
I tend to find with most things reported in the press, the Mail and Telegraph will seek to blame the people it happens to (well, unless they're white, middle class and male) while the Guardian will blame it all on society and/or some form of corporate fat cat. Or Margaret Thatcher.
The reality usually lies somewhere between the two.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "This is absolute double standards.
Whilst you might not had asked for money for the luxury of traveling abroad, you was more than happy for me to lend (yes lend) you £20 on the spot for the luxury to watch Wigan game when you couldn’t get money out of the cash machine. Have I seen a penny of that back yet? Nope. Have I badgered you for that money back? Nope – In fact keep the money because I wrote the debt off ages ago. And no I’m not going to bring this subject up every time you want to get a across a point.
Just be careful who you’re in debt to next time because it could be to some really nasty individual and with your gambling habit you might just get yourself in that unfortunate situation one day.
Finally please do not inherit the main flaw of the previous generation which is bias. By all means air your concerns about unemployment (I’ve aired the same opinions on these boards in the past and how convenient that it’s not moaning now) but don’t get into the popular mantra of bashing me. It’s not going to work and you’re just going to look like a bigger fool than you already are.
Tad and others will be lapping all this up. Is this what we’ve become – entertainment on a message board? This is two friend’s nit picking at each other’s flaws just to suit their viewpoint of things. If you fail to see that then I’m sorry I can’t help you!
Now I must go get a bath. I’ve got an important meeting to attend this afternoon.'" This was quite low for you Damo bringing up personal problems of mine, to which I get help and I am doing something about.
I haven't seen you since you gave me the 20 pound, that is why I have not given you it. I will happily send you it via online banking tonight if you post me in private you bank details. Alternatively if you can get to Bradford Friday, I will pay you in the gate there, and even buy you a beer.
The problem here Damo seems to be that alot of time you are joking, and looking for bites, and it would appear in this instance you are been genuine and sincere. However no one else seems to know the difference.
You're a good lad mate, but you're views on the employment situation do annoy me. We'll have to agree to disagree as I really don't want you posting any other issues that you know I am currently battle against at the moment. On that note, just give me your banking details tonight. Thanks.
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| So, this whole thread was actually just an elaborate ruse by Damo to get his £20 back.
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| Quote: El Diablo "So, this whole thread was actually just an elaborate ruse by Damo to get his £20 back.'"
If it was, then bloody well played.
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| Quote: Invincible "On that note, just give me your banking details tonight. Thanks.'"
Why would I give you my banking details when I could just get an acquaintance of mine to hack (virtual bailiffs – lovely people they are) into your bank account to get my £20 back?
Just pay £40 to get into Bradford later on this week. They need it more than me.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Why would I give you my banking details when I could just get an acquaintance of mine to hack (virtual bailiffs – lovely people they are) into your bank account to get my £20 back?
Just pay £40 to get into Bradford later on this week. They need it more than me.'" right, I'll give you a day to change your mind on that one. I'm not having you in 3 years nag me about this 20quid. I'll happily give you it friday if you go to Odsal.
Back on topic...............infact no, f000k it. I'm out.
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| Quote: Invincible "right, I'll give you a day to change your mind on that one. I'm not having you in 3 years nag me about this 20quid. I'll happily give you it friday if you go to Odsal.'"
In three years’ time I shall blurt out that you owe me £20 on live TV. Several helicopters will fly with signs advertising the same message all across Yorkshire. On top of that I shall do a campaign to out-do the recent KONY 2012 one. It should be epic. Just you watch me
Take care mate and have a good week!
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