Nor is it a GF qualifier, which by your logic gives Wigan an equally good shout.

It's as dangerous for us to underestimate Wigan this week as it was for them to undersetimate the Giants last week.

GF qualifiers aren't proper Cup Finals.

Wigan are giving you +4.5 start on Bet365, I thought you guys would be favourite anyway. I have heaped my bet on your lot.

+6.0 start at Ladbrokes and William Hills.
Ladbrokes are also offering odds of 13/8 on a Leeds win (no handicap).

I agree with this even though i think we will lose but anything can happen in a Wigan v Leeds game look at last season you brought a weak squad and everyone thought us by 20+ but we won by 2 and could have lost the game

Your right GF qualifiers aren't proper Cup Finals, however they have more meaning than regular SL games! No more than 6pts in it in my opinion.

Never suggested they were mate.

FWIW I haven't got a clue about this game. Wouldn't presume to guess on the basis of form from the first match of the season. I just hope the WCC doesn't affect them like the CC final appeared to against Quins last year.

Not being a betting man myself, I need to ask, what does that start mean and how does it differ from having a four point start?

It just takes the draw out of the equation. And the bookies hit the draw more often than you'd think!

Don't punt myself but I'm strangely intrigued by the odds.

The actual handicap is 4 points. That's the amount Leeds are given to bring the scores level. The half is added on to give a 'no-draw' handicap with slightly different odds.

I heard that the England RU side had booked him as their motivational speaker for their game at the weekend

My U12s will be walking out with the Rhinos on Saturday night, give them a cheer!!

Goes without saying Seth!!

they may give us a better game!