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| Maybe the dog had peed on them & they were getting their own back?
Pretty poor show though.
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| Quote: tigertot "Actually what I said was true. It's exactly as I was told a couple of weeks ago when my fried was regaling tales of his dad who had just died & who sounded like an incredibly interesting & intelligent man who, as an engineer, worked on some of the most innovative stuff going on during & after the war. The tale about them peeing on the grave is how he (my friend) recounted it. Whether it is true I guess we will never know.'"
Oh Dear.
Looks like you've pee'd on Bullseye's campfire yourself!
Still, it was an interesting tale, and we have a relaxed attitude here when it comes historical accuracy....
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| Quote: tigertot "Actually what I said was true. It's exactly as I was told a couple of weeks ago when my fried was regaling tales of his dad who had just died & who sounded like an incredibly interesting & intelligent man who, as an engineer, worked on some of the most innovative stuff going on during & after the war. The tale about them peeing on the grave is how he (my friend) recounted it. Whether it is true I guess we will never know.'"
I look forward to seeing that in the film too
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| Quote: BillyRhino "Oh Dear.
Looks like you've pee'd on Bullseye's campfire yourself!
And possibly on your cruel suggestion that my friend's father, a war veteran, had dementia.
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Er. No. Your mates dad was clearly suffering from dementia before he died.'"
Interesting how you show great disgust at the dogs name being changed then spout this crap. You're out of order.
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| Putting all this in film perspective:
On the one hand, we have a dog being (slightly) renamed in a film. I don't agree it was necessary or even appropriate, but its hardly the end of the world and I will lose precisely one nanosecond of sleep over it.
On the other hand, we have any number of US-made films where what the Brits & Commonwealth did is pretty well airbrushed out and it was an all-American show. That worries me a whole lot more, since when I TALK to Americans, all too often now they deride anything British and seem to lack any understanding of our role in the war. On several occasions, when I asked US guys how they know that we had little to do with D Day other than being a US staging-point or how they know it was the US who were the means of cracking the enigma code (for example), they cite what they saw in the films... That has implications for our influence (or lack of) in the current world, and is something I AM concerned about.
The first -at worst - appeases the PC brigade.
The second helps to rewrite history, not at all in our favour, in the minds of too many Americans, especially those not old enough to have even second-hand experience or knowledge.
So which issue gets the most forum inches?
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| Quote: Head High Tackle "Interesting how you show great disgust at the dogs name being changed then spout this crap. You're out of order.'"
Does anybody seriously believe that Barnes Wallace, a quiet studious man. Badly affected by guilt and grief after the death of so many of 617 sqd,that he felt responible for, would be the type of man to pee on the grave of his friends much loved dog ?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Putting all this in film perspective
This is a point I also made in the original thread, the whole dogs name issue was an example of history being changed for entertainment.
I also mentioned about the complete missrepresentation of VC winner in "ZULU". But other posters seem happy to alter history for the sake of a good film.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Putting all this in film perspective
Absolutely, this is a bug bear of mine too. The British are portrayed as just sitting around drinking tea and generally being incompetent in comparison to the brave, mighty and ingenius Yankees. The British and Canadians taking 3 of the 5 beaches on D-Day is ignored almost entirely, as is the taking of Caen in the North by the British which allowed the Americans to sweep round the South and establish a beachhead.
The only part of the war we get any credit for is the Battle of Britain.
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| Quote: tigertot "And possibly on your cruel suggestion that my friend's father, a war veteran, had dementia.'"
Are you dyslexic as well as dysfunctional?
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6553.gif [b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches.
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| Quote: Wicker Man "Does anybody seriously believe that Barnes Wallace, a quiet studious man. Badly affected by guilt and grief after the death of so many of 617 sqd,that he felt responible for, would be the type of man to pee on the grave of his friends much loved dog ?'"
Where did he say Barnes Wallace did?
Perhaps , perhaps his friends father was a air fitter, or a gunner, or any of the other mutlitude of roles that could be bitten/harassed by Gibson's dog. perhaps it was forever getting them in trouble so they hated it.
How the hell would we know?
I don't know what your moral crusade is all about but you've made some pretty blindingly daft statements on here.
Are you Bang in disguise?
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| Quote: loinertillidie "Where did he say Barnes Wallace did?'"
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Quote: loinertillidie "My mates dad died a few weeks ago. He worked with Gibson & Wallace. According to his dad they hated the dog & all peed on its grave.'"
It does fairly improbable though that Gibson would urinate on his own dogs grave.
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| Quote: BigRob "Here
It does fairly improbable though that Gibson would urinate on his own dogs grave.'" I interpreted that as meaning his mates dad worked with Gibson and Wallace and it was his mates dad and his work mates that hated the dog, not Gibson and Wallace who hated the dog.
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| Quote: BigRob "
Yes, it is a pain to see how the Yanks continually skew history with regard to the good ol' US of A, but the old adage about paying pipers and choice of tunes still holds true. I shouldn't imagine any of the Axis countries were overly enamoured either by their portrayal in the immeadiate post war film industry.
I can easily beleive also, that the media is the sole reference point for a vast swathe of our own younger society. How many times have you heard the justification for a viewpoint as "I read it in the papers" FFS!
Since when were newspapers anything other than conduits for their owners particular political views? And cartoons!
As Mr Royale might opine....."Facts my "
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6553.gif [b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches.
[b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?.
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| Quote: BigRob "Here
loinertillidie wrote
Hmm, I think it most likely given the context that "they" was the group that tigertots mate's Dad worked with, rather than actually being part of a trio with Barnes Wallace and Gibson. Either you're being deliberatley obtuse or plain linguistically pedantic.
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