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Quote: rhinoms "As of yet not replacing scruton hasn't proved that costly and we still don't know if the like's of ambler and l.brown will make an impact this year if they get selected.
The squad has plenty of versatility imo and who know's we may end up with another "anselme" as a short term stop gap plus worrall to come back into contention.'"


Why have prices gone up at Headingley when the product on offer has reduced in quality?

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Quote: tvoc "When injuries arise to one or more of the four dedicated props it will be too late to question the squad depth for this season. This is where (IMO) Eastwood came in but as he won't be here this season someone is going to have to fill the breach. 5th prop was done by Burgess last season, it looks like Ian Kirke will now get the job this season. That's a pity for Leeds as he was shaping up in the Lauitiiti's wide impact runner role from the bench as Lauitiiti's fitness continues to hit and miss.



Aye we may that and neither of them are what you'd term SL standard outside of the also rans and dregs.'"

He did a job when we were short.
Worrall will improve again this year imo and like i keep saying IF the right player is out there i'm sure we'll get him.
Missing out on eastwood was a blow but i don't think it's a crisis.

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Quote: The Magic Wand "Why have prices gone up at Headingley when the product on offer has reduced in quality?'"

Ask the board!!!
You know that if your not happy paying you don't have to go don't you? icon_wink.gif
Plus we need the extra dosh for sam burgess' 5 yr deal. icon_wink.gif

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You know that if your not happy paying you don't have to go don't you? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tad rhino "toopi hardly played and ablett did well enough there, and he is still here. i agree about scruton though'"

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Quote: rhinoms "He did a job when we were short.
Worrall will improve again this year imo and like i keep saying IF the right player is out there i'm sure we'll get him.
Missing out on eastwood was a blow but i don't think it's a crisis.'"


Worrall is what he is, cheap and cheerful cannon fodder, only now with a dodgy shoulder to recover from. Even before the injury he wasn't big enough, strong enough or explosive enough. I won't be holding out for much of an improvement in those deficiencies in a 24 year old.

Could do a job for the likes of Salford perhaps.

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Quote: tvoc "Worrall is what he is, cheap and cheerful cannon fodder, only now with a dodgy shoulder to recover from. Even before the injury he wasn't big enough, strong enough or explosive enough. I won't be holding out for much of an improvement in those deficiencies in a 24 year old.

Could do a job for the likes of Salford perhaps.'"

I thought he did a reasonable job tvoc tbh.
Age shouldn't matter afterall look how old the like's of kirke and raleigh were when they made the step up to SL and both have improved a great deal.

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Quote: rhinoms "I thought he did a reasonable job tvoc tbh.
Age shouldn't matter afterall look how old the like's of kirke and raleigh were when they made the step up to SL and both have improved a great deal.'"


Look at the natural physique's that came with Kirke and Raleigh and then get back to me with regards Worrall.

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Quote: tvoc "Look at the natural physique's that came with Kirke and Raleigh and then get back to me with regards Worrall.'"

So you have to be huge to be decent then???
I'd prefer to see how worrall come's back after his 1st season at 1st team level before writing the lad off mate.

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Quote: rhinoms "So you have to be huge to be decent then???
I'd prefer to see how worrall come's back after his 1st season at 1st team level before writing the lad off mate.'"


No but if you are a forward, it helps...

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Quote: rhinoms "So you have to be huge to be decent then???
I'd prefer to see how worrall come's back after his 1st season at 1st team level before writing the lad off mate.'"


Your choice, I've seen enough.

As I said previously for me Worrall wasn't big enough, strong enough or explosive enough and at 24 those characteristics aren't likely to alter.

Funny thing is I expressed the same opinion last season (even before the injury) and IIRC you agreed with me.

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Quote: tvoc "
More than the 21 games he played in last year as Leeds' 5th prop?'"


time spent on the park would be a better indication

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Quote: King Monkey "time spent on the park would be a better indication'"


I can't help you there but from his stats20082009: 652 metres from 87 carries ( 12.43 carries at 7.4943 metres per carry per game and 119 tackles at 17 per game)

It appears his workload is increasing but I wouldn't exactly call it a significant shift at this stage. An extra one and half carries and three tackles could be covered by an extra two or three minutes of gametime.

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Quote: tvoc "Your choice, I've seen enough.

As I said previously for me Worrall wasn't big enough, strong enough or explosive enough and at 24 those characteristics aren't likely to alter.

Funny thing is I expressed the same opinion last season (even before the injury) and IIRC you agreed with me.'"

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I thought he was ok was it in term's of who to retain and re-sign??
After reading an interview at the end of the season he was carrying that shoulder injury throughout the year until we had everyone fit then he had the surgery this led to him not being able to do the full weight and strength training.
I'm prepared to give the lad a chance and see how he does as a squad player having being able to fully train.

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Quote: rhinoms "

I think it was in terms similar to those I set out above. That he would never make a starting place due to his lack of physical attributes but that he was cheap and therefore OK to have around as cannon fodder to cover for back row injuries.

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