The goal kicking is the big loss for me. We really need a big metre munching and hard to handle 2nd row to play alongside McDonnell / Gannon / Bentley.

Business as per normal, we are a mid table club and continue to be a mid table club. Martin is one of the outstanding players of the modern game. A big bonus is the fact he can play also a superb goal kicker and usually keep’s clear of injuries.

Awesome kicker will be missed.

Gutted about this one. Very likeable player and person.

Completely agree with this JWH will spend more time banned than playing in SL.

Martin, whilst being a great player, is part of a problem we have of a small backrow. That's proved by the fact he is moved to centre rather than prop when we're short in both. Its a shame we missed out of Fitzgibbon, as he's a good size.

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing what Blease can do. If Arthur stays on, perhaps we could look at a couple of the Eels players they're currently looking to move on. Regan Campell Gillard and Shaun Lane would be exactly what we need.

Martin will be 32 in March; although he has a few good years left in him he is also moving towards the back end of his career. We have had good service from him but agree with Exiled, we need to beef up that pack, and it's not just a prop problem.

We need more size, more pace and more skill if we're going to break out of this mid-table mediocrity.

I do think Martin is a very solid player, very consistent and injury-resistant... I just think Leeds need a re-vamp. If we can get two really decent forwards with Arthur's help, it will take us a big step forward.

We'll need three forwards and kicker in order to be certain we progress as a team. Not impossible, but will certainly be a challenge. Think we'll also likely have to offload one of Miller, Mom, or Frawley.

Slightly off topic, hand on heart how many players in our current squad would be described as top notch players. In my opinion very few, which makes our rebuild programme harder than normal. The home game so called match experience and the clubs off field running of the club, which is excellent ,means quite a few people will still attend in spite of the teams lack lustre performances. Prior to super league a few poor seasons would mean a sharp fall in attendances.

Gutted that we couldn't get him to stay, excellent player and been very good value for us. Personally idve made him captain as he does that job for the Kumuls and as mentioned is generally injury free.
Its not the end of the world of course and Im sure we made a decent offer / upgraded contract but maybe after the last few years he just wants a change of pace which I cant blame him on.

Can we please offload all three

Don't you believe it , the matchday experience is poor and if you like a beer it is garbage . More and more supporters are getting fed up with the changes to kick of times and days , our group of five will not renew our season tickets next season .

I haven't even heard of any possible replacements for Rhyse either. If we're after an out and out kicker only then would be nice to lure someone like Sneyd over unless he's under a big contract. But otherwise.... I dunno...