Agree with the views here that this is not about 1 or 2 players. Last night for mine only young Tindall ran the ball in hard and fast which late on resulted in the Pearce high tackle, yellow card.
Virtually all game their defensive line ran harder at us than the ball carrier did.
We still could not really create anything v 12 men compounded by really dense play like the tip tackle by Smith.

It's not about scapegoating walker, as I don't think he's the reason we lost. I'm more questioning whether he will ever be the reason we will win.

To me, he came through as an exciting ball runner, who had a Sam Tomkins-esque step. I think over the years, through injury or being found out, we've realised he actually has no pace. In fact, for a fullback, he's quite slow... Without the illusive running in his game, there's not much skill to back it up.

Fullback is too important a position to be carrying someone who isn't up to it...

Again it’s 3 games in after a 2 year lay off, I’m sure the plan was to ease him in gradually but obviously that has suffered s blow because of Myler.

We need to win and win by a big comfortable margin to get our season back on track.

Walker
Fusitua Newman Sutcliffe Handley
Austin Sezer
Oledzki Leeming Prior
Gannon Martin
Smith

Tetevano Dwyer Thompson Donaldson

I think we just need a win, comfortable or not

To be fair, we have been poor with the ball, but aside from a portion of the Wigan game we've been pretty solid defensively, and we've played 3 of the strongest teams in the league with a patched up back line and back row. Even with a fully fit squad, we're at least a level below St Helens, so it's too early to write this season off.

It’s a good point to make. Our next 3 games are Wakefield, Hull FC and Salford. If we pick up 3 out of 3 wins from those games as we should do and need to do, things won’t be looking too bad.

After the loss at Wigan we had missed more tackles than any other team I believe. I can’t imagine that changed much after last night. We missed plenty again last night, and some of them were very costly.

wasn't expecting? didn't he demand it

Why does everyone rave on about Smith? The most overrated player at the club.

As for Thompson getting bagged, yep he’s an average Joe and not that’s needed, but he put himself about in defence last night.

Walker
Fusitua
Newman
Broadbent
Handley

Austin
Sezer

Oledzki
Leeming
Tetevano
Gannon
Martin
Prior

Dwyer
Thompson
Smith
Take your pick from the scraps

We will continue to struggle while we have no recognised props on the bench.

Smith has some super skills, but doesn't consistently work hard enough in defence. Its up to him - if he puts the work in he could be a very good player. If not he'll stay about where he is. Maybe a different coach would make a big difference?

As for Walker, its not just about his injuries. His contact in defence is often not good enough and he's never had a passing game. Those are issues he had before his layoff. If the injury has permanently slowed him down then longer-term he'll struggle to be a SL player let alone a star unless he improves in other areas. Even if he gets back to full speed (which isn't lightning) he'll just be an average player.

Smith has a great work rate, he regularly makes 30 or 40 tackles a game, he does give away stupid penalties, but he's very skillful. If he could get in better shape he'd be phenomenal

Think he made 47 tackles on Thursday and he only played around 60 minutes. Hes also the only forward we have who can offload from what i can see.