A couple of good performances would make a huge difference to the side and make things look much rosier quickly.

However a rugby league side IMO is only as good as it’s weakest links, and we have just too many and an unbalanced, disjointed and pressurised side.

This IMO is ridiculous (I'm not saying it's a not a possibility). Look at Huddersfield last year at this stage and Catalans and Warrington on the flip side look at us at this time last year, and Hull - you surely get my point?

We have played terribly for 40 minutes in the last two games, and the two games before that we played really well, at the moment our defence looks shot in the middle and on our goal line but history will show you teams can pick up a string of results which will change the look of the table - Wigan look just as bad as us at the moment are they staring at relegation?

Furner's difficulty is in screwing a good defensive effort out of the group of players that have shown signs of giving us a good attacking edge. If he can do that, in answer to your question, I can see us beating most sides. If he cannot, he will at some point revert to a selection capable of defending but that is poor in attack. I'd much prefer the former but either way I don't think we'll be in the bottom 2.

If you do not think we will be in the bottom two , who else apart from London will finish below us ?

Well who's there now for a start.

Hudds, Wakey, Catalans. That's worse case. I'd add a few more if I knew furner could galvanise the defence of his best attacking 17. All opinion though. If I thought we were incapable of playing any better than the last 2 games I'd be thinking the same as you. But we've seen that's not the case.

The whole situation has been a marketing disaster for the club from start to finish. Build a new stadium, spend millions of £'s, we owe the banks big time, all stadium prices have been hiked up by a minimum of 10% in some areas, by more than 25% in other areas. Yet the team in the last 18 months has been awful. We can blame McDermott for so long as he was at the helm long enough, but we cant blame him for the recent signings or people leaving. Sinfield has to take some responsibility. The team has gone backward from last season. Last season the rot did not set in until after the World championship this year it set in from the first game, and having watched them play well in two of the games the other 4 games have been terrible. To say we have to be patient, and give them time, then they should have thought long and hard about this before they hiked up the prices. We have a great stadium but a poor team. Think about it, even with the golden generation how many league leaders shields did we win, McDermott said it was never how you started it was how you finished the season that mattered, and we had the best coach in the league as to how to finish off a season, the years when we won it twice from 5th, we played terrible in games so even though we won all those grand finals we never played well throughout every season, unfortunately it was never going to last. The last good season was when we won the treble, after than it was one good year either side of two terrible seasons. To cap it all and it sums it up perfectly you can only polish a turd so much.
Last year we let two players go to Hull KR who were better than the players we have signed this year, JD we signed from HKR he may be able to tackle but he hasn't improved the team going forward, The two Marque signing are good quality signings but where are the follow up quality signings, we gave contract extensions to two old boys, JJB and Ablett, both Sinfield's mates, yet both haven't played to date, both are still injured as per last year, this was down to Sinfield and GH, is Loloear a half back or full back, we are now hearing he is a full back. WHY ?? when we have Jack Walker one of the quality players, the patience only lasts for so long and while we have been watching rubbish for a long time its time that someone took responsibility and ownership. I wish people on here stopped talking about being patient, how long would your employer be patient with you if you continued to underperform. Lets get this right Sinfield is not bullet proof, being a good leader on the pitch, which he was and is a Leeds Legend, it does not guarantee you success as a leader off the field. He is on steep learning curve and failure to deliver will see him lose his job, he is after all not a shareholder. So far if you judge him on what he has done to date the score would be low. We are all entitled to our views, everyone has their opinion lets respect everyone's views and lets review at the end of the next 6 games.

Huddersfield, Salford, Hull KR, Catalan, Wakefield and even Wigan could all finish below us IMO

We're on round 6 of 29 game season!!

Which is fine as it's your opinion but I really think you are being unrealistic in the changes and how quickly they can be made when A. players are under contract and B. we have a salary cap to adhere to.

Someone has taken responsibility and ownership, last year GH stated that things needed to change, he sacked McDermott, he brought in Sinfield who from the very beginning said this was not a quick fix, they then went about restructuring the whole backroom staff including the head coach, they have got rid of quite a few playing staff and recruited three overseas signings. We have a lot of players off contract next season, so will see another big change in players.

I honestly think your expectations of the clear out and rebuild are way too high in terms of how quick it will happen, this year I suspect we will be consistently inconsistent, however I do think we have the quality to get to mid table and build from there, we as RL fans are too quick to look at recent results (as in the last 2 games or so) and judge how the season will pan out based on those games, history will show you teams can and do start very poorly but end up in the higher end of the table, and also the same in the opposite direction, our season last year for example!

You may be right although last time I looked, the player stats had Garbutt on marginally over 7m per carry, a considerable decrease on what he was making over the first two or three games. And while I'm not one to go off stats alone (we've seen the silliness that can lead to) there might be a story emerging there none the less.

WE have had a miserable start to the season and 5 losses out of 6 was not what i expected when the fixture list came out. I will be patient and wait to see. Obviously the rebuild will take time and may even take 2-3 seasons before the club get themselves back to where they want to be. Dwelling on what has happened and pointing the finger in blame is futile and a waste of effort. We are where we are but i would like to see progress. We have seen glimmers of it at Saints and Salford but not much other evidence of it. Friday against London will be a good indicator on what has been worked on this week and hopefully some of the holes filled in. After London we have Catalan and Castleford, it doesn't get any easier does it!

What i have come on to say though is that i'm sick and tired of reading all the bashing of JJB & Ablett before they have even pulled a shirt on. Their experience is not to be underestimated, give them a chance to still prove their worth before rubbishing them. If they don't perform go ahead and criticise but they haven't caught a ball in anger yet! If they don't add value to the squand then i will admit it myself and say that it's a season too far but at least wait to see

Ablett's also 4 years younger than JJB at 33 so I'm not sure they can be put in the same category as past it.