I would just like to see something resembling a full team out before condemning them!

you don't need a full team to look ok and compete. how many did cas have out on Friday? 9? they didn't do to badly

How did Cas go in the only important game theyve had this season?

Did Cas lose 3 more players during the game due to injury?

did they end up with 3? no.
did we look competitive in the first half with a full compliment? no.
we looked a shambles. stop looking for excuses.

We were terrible on Friday, but as I say id like to see us with a proper team out before condemning them

fair enough. time will tell i guess

Still so many empty seats. It's gonna be worse when all those new expensive seats are open too. The Carnegie seats will be barely a third full!

But this argument is also stale and has been trotted out for so many years now, only for Brian Mac to make his critics eat their words by his achievements.

No they had 8 out but they had just signed a new pivot who made a big contribution to their win. But you know that already don't you so why say 9?

8/9 does it matter? Still a great result and performance. Could you see us beating wire at the Halliwell jones at this time? Not a chance for me, and i'd be happy if we didn't get humped by 30 plus.

I know I don't see all the Rhino's games but it does seem as if its mostly the young players that try to gee the team up when its going wrong (which has been most of the time of late) I noticed Goulding, Ward, and even young Cam Smith tryingto urge the team on while the senior players seem resigned to their fate.

Almost the only difference between this year and 2016 is that we got a few wins early. Otherwise its the same - injuries, hopeless play, more injuries, hopeless performance, keep picking injured players, rinse and repeat.

BM did a great job last year and 2015. But he was as poor as the team in 2016, and this year looks like a carbon copy. The ONE thing he admitted to doing wrong in 2016 was picking injured players and then seeing them both play badly and get injured again, and yet he's doing exactly the same this year.

My problem is we look a mess on the field. A boring, slow mess. Forget 'unstructured', we look like half the time we've no idea who's supposed to be doing what. Just like 2016.

Some of our senior players need to take a long hard look at themselves as well. I remember in 2003-ish tvoc bagged Francis Cummins, saying he was 'stealing a living', which I remember thinking was a bit harsh. IMO that charge could and perhaps should be levelled at some of our more experienced players.