Don't be too sure any of them will be released

Ferres, like Briscoe, look to have a bad case of Danny Brough syndrome. Thrive as a big fish in a small pond, struggle when the expectation is on to stand out in the big ponds.

For a 27 year old with a decade of SL behind him, Briscoe's mentality, decision making and positioning are terrible. For a a supposed international standard back rower, Ferres makes an amazing amount of basic, dumb, decisions. Whether its a stupid grubby tackle, a dumb penalty, or crazy off-load.

I think we are a long long way away from those two even getting close to offering value for money in an salary capped sport.

Agree. As with many of McDermott's decisions it's hard to understand. When Ablett is just as comfortable playing on the right as he is on the left (and has regularly done so) there has never been the need to have them playing in the opposite channels.

you are miles off with Briscoe. he has been a very good player for us and was a good signing. certainly an upgrade from BJB.
however a few long term injuries have all but finished him, and is now a pale shadow of his former self.

I think the thing with Ferres is he misses Danny Brough. Brough played to his strengths, Hudds always played to the left in an opponents 20 with Brough Ferres and Wardle. From the little I have seen of him in a Leeds shirt I dont think he is getting the same service in the same positions from the halves and being used as more of a cart horse which he certainly has the frame to do too

I agree with this. Although i do think some are being a little over critical, the post from Printer further back with the direct quote from Ferres makes a fair point, he is still coming back from injury. I hope and expect him to improve by getting a long run in the team from here, if he is still mediocre come the end the year with a long run behind him that i think it's fair game to lay into him but i think he deserves a few months to prove his worth.

I think he will come good. Always rated him to be fair, and if you had a fully fit and firing Ferres im sure he would have had that left second row spot ahead of McMeeken against Samoa (although McMeeken has been superb) IMO obviously

He was excellent for the last few years for Huddersfield and especially England, which proves he has something about him. Last year was a virtual write off for us and he has barely played a handful of games for us this year so far, i too am quietly confident he will come good with game time.

I believe ferres is carrying an injury, apparently he has not been able to train flat out for some time. Certainly looking at the half time shot of him shirtless at the magic week end game would confirm that.
The coaching staff should sort the briscoe problem out, at the moment he looks like he does not want to be on the pitch. It's not good for team morale if the team works hard to score, then poor defense negates the score.

I have to disagree. Briscoe has looked good when we have gone well, but when we have struggled or the pressure has been on, he has been nowhere to be seen at best and a liability at worst. An awful dropped ball cost us the game in the play-offs 2014, Was great in 2015, poor last year and poor this.

Im not saying he is a terrible player but for a big name international coming in to the prime of his career he should have really kicked on when he signed for us but he has taken a step backwards if anything.

I don't disagree but several long term injuries have taken there toll

He's not our least effective player, he just hasn't lived up to expectations.

I agree with Biff.

And to Smokey, you couldn't be more wrong (no change there) with your 'big fish small pond' comment. Ferres has always been one of the best on the field when playing for England.

Worked for us get off your high horse.

Just because a players doesn't work out at one club doesn't mean he won't at another - Leeds fans in particular seem to struggle with this concept.

Must agree with some others on here. If we judged players on last season we would only have kept about 3 players so to single him out is not right, especially given he had moved clubs and the situation surrounding that - you can call him out for that and fair enough but it will have taken a personal toll on him.

As for this year, he didn't get much of a pre season and then that stupid suspension so he has barely played. One thing he should take responsibility for is his weight which is disgraceful for a professional athlete, injuries or not.

When he is fit, the ground is hard and as a team we have confidence then judge him. For me it's too early and I believe he will come good.