anywhere between 4,5,6,7. either way mac out and burrow mags jjb all gone at end of year. no trophy's. but solid foundations for 2018, hopefully play some good rugby (be happy with 5-6 in that senario) but i doubt it

General standard is such that any side that plays good rugby on anything like a regular basis will walk into the top 4 imo.

The great unknown is Matt Parcell.

I'm going to assume he's no Segeyaro and I'll therefore stick with my prediction thread view of Leeds finishing 9th, even without SPOTY, the Kiwis, tanned mincers and floods getting in the way.

McDermott should have been replaced by now.

6th for me - unlikely to do anything in the CC due to the lack of leadership especially in a tight one off game.

Players leaving: JJB, McGuire, Moon, Galloway, Delanney, Ward to the NRL

Coaches: McDermott and Davidson

They'll get through to the last 16 of the CC at least.

start well before dropping off.

average squads can start very well as the big sides prepare to peak later. Leeds can't afford to start poorly so I think our slightly above average squad can put a good amount of points on the board early in the year. As the season progresses I think we will begin to struggle as injuries bite and quality in telling positions begins to show.

I think we will be challenging at the end of 23 but miss out on the top 4 by a place or two. but the Cup is certainly a possibility with the experience we have and it's short run.

wildcard prediction: leeds start well but start to drop off badly around August. Big name NRL player becomes available and gives leeds a 2nd wind ala Ali 2004, having looked down and out leeds nick a cup win and squeeze in to the top 4 where the big match experience of McGuire, Burrow and JJB pulls them through one more time for a historic double. Mags and Burrow retire on a high, proving they can do it without Sinfield, JJB and Delany listen to father time and Mac and Sinfield reunite at Red Hall to fix the failing English game.

League & Cup double. McDermott leaves at end of another fantastic season.

Given the title of this thread I thought it meant you were no longer with us?

We have already won the Harry Jepson trophy and have a chance of winning the Bev Risman cup so less of the empty trophy cabinet , Top 4 should be minimum requirement but we will probably limp into 6th or 7th . Wigan, Wire , Cas and Saints for top 4 with Hull in 5th for me .

That'll do me. weren't you the only one to predict the 2015 treble?

Top 6 for me.the known unknowns are injuries and the xmas parcell,so who knows perhaps we will win the lot again.

Don't be f*****g ridiculous



McDermott isn't going anywhere.