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| He has a year on his current deal i believe and deserves the chance to exit on his own terms at the end of that imo. he should step down as skipper though and focus on getting himself right for one last shot in 2017.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"You do realise we are a salary capped sport? I am assuming not, judging by your second sentence. If wrong then I am very sure you don't pay money to go.'"
Achurch was on a lot and so is hardaker, loan hardaker out another year and bin Achurch, that frees up AT LEAST the 175,000 cap space required to make a marque signing, so we can effectively spend what we want on a new player
Also if we just paid out the last year on McGuire and Burrows contracts, it would count on our cap anyway. Are you saying we are better off with nothing?
Do you understand the salary cap mate? 
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| but if he retires, and I think he should,and the club sort out a role for him then it's win win all round.
sadly I think time has caught up with him
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"Achurch was on a lot and so is hardaker, loan hardaker out another year and bin Achurch, that frees up AT LEAST the 175,000 cap space required to make a marque signing, so we can effectively spend what we want on a new player
Also if we just paid out the last year on McGuire and Burrows contracts, it would count on our cap anyway. Are you saying we are better off with nothing?
Do you understand the salary cap mate?
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Why do we need to buy an organising half back at all when we already have one in Lilley?
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| Leeds were playing in the lower league yesterday, Lilley still looked slow and missed as many tackles as he made (IMO - whether Opta agree or not) I still don't see what some fans are seeing in him.
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| I think Lilley can be developed into an organising half good enough for SL, I don't think turning the role over to him next year will immediately solve our problems.
In terms of his defence he has a habit of shooting the line, which could just be over enthusiasm. In terms of one on one tackling he's no worse than most halves in SL and a good deal better than some.
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| How many 19 year old HB's were good defenders from the off at that age in SL?
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| Quote Fat Boy="Fat Boy"Why do we need to buy an organising half back at all when we already have one in Lilley?'"
I am not saying we write off Lilly, but he still needs a couple more years to develop IMO.
Remember that Adam Reynolds Cooper Cronk and even Thurston didn't emerge as top quality controlling halves until they were 23/4
I think we should sign a half with a good kicking and organising game, to allow Mcguire Sutcliffe and our outside backs more time and space to create tries. (I am still quite annoyed that we didn't get Gale, who despite what Sky will tell you, has been a lot better that Sneyd and Gidly)
Lilly could then probably be sent on loan where he will get consistent game time at 7, ideally to a SL team or if not to a Championship team who will be in the Middle 8s
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"Leeds were playing in the lower league yesterday, Lilley still looked slow and missed as many tackles as he made (IMO - whether Opta agree or not) I still don't see what some fans are seeing in him.'"
matty smith, luke walsh and michael dobson aren't that quick either tbh and none of them couldn't tackle a hot diner either
i would have loved either of walsh or dobson at our club this season
luke walsh is apparently manly bound which i find even more surprising judging by both of his deficiencies in his skill set that you have highlighted that lilley is also missing
i am not championing lilley nor am i writing lilley off just yet as he's still very young and is still on a steep learning curve trying to do a sinny type of game management
imo he could yet still prove to be a creative scrum half for us,especially if we get a decent 6 that compliments his skills
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| Are you comparing the pace of those three as they are now or as they were when they were twenty as Lilley will be in a fortnight?
Lilley has to be the slowest player I've seen pull on a first grade jersey for Leeds. The rest of his game at present doesn't even come close to compensating. Long term I don't see a future for him at Headingley, as soon as the next one rolls off the production line he'll be history and soon forgotten, IMO.
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| Danny won the Sunderland Trophy last GF and its not too long ago and because of that I think he will be still here next year
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| Quote lionarmour87="lionarmour87"Danny won the Sunderland Trophy last GF and its not too long ago and because of that I think he will be still here next year'"
He and the rest of the team need to up their game considerably to be anything near to that performance next season.
We are rubbish this year with no signs of new players coming in to make it happen in 2017.
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