True, and I've seen similar incidents to the Briscoe/Brough touching of shoulders since then when grubbers have gone in and obviously unnoticed.

Refs and consistency......it's almost at that point where we should forget about it ever being a reality.

I thought this at the time of watching, but having seen the replay it looks I to me. They may be half a yard in front of the ref, but fine for me

Brough and therefore Huddersfield....and yes you're right. It's the inconsistency that infuriates.

We didn't deserve to win, don't get me wrong, but if that's correct there's something wrong with the refereeing/video ref system that needs to be rectified, and punishments delivered.

Boo hoo. Because the RFL's favorite team never stand offside do they? Get a grip, Briscoe's individual error cost you the game and that's all there is too it. Accept it and move on.

Williams was a yard in front of the ref and offside Henderson who I thought bossed the second half was a yard in front of him. Both offside which is how it goes sometimes but basically we were guilty of stupidity, with a minute and 22 seconds left it's four drives from dummy half or a short pass to a forward a a long kick down field and game over

Another one to misunderstand..... I think you will find we do accept it and there are no sour grapes.

It's something that needs to be made clear for next seasonexactly[/i the video ref can be/should be used.

It used to be Leeds' strength....winning tight games. Now we seem to[i lose[/i them.

Hardaker dummying the play the ball didn't help either.

No it's not that at all. I think every single Leeds fan on here admits we deservd to lose, it's just a question on the varying use of the VR. I mean what if the same incident happened at the other end with a Catalans player knocking on and it costing them victory? As they were the better team people would be questioning why offside wasn't checked and saying it's a conspicary to let the big club through.

The ref doesn't always ask for onside/offside when a try comes from a kick, but the VR always checks it to make sure.

we cam still win tight games but we dont do it as regularly.

Of the 6 defeats in a row we got into a winning position in 5 of them. We seem to struggle to finish a game off, for whatever reason

Fatigue often made worse by an underuse of the bench. How many times have Leeds lost halftime leads this season? Used to be a rare event but not anymore or so it seems to me.

The Catalan defensive line were onside to the try-scorer Williams although beyond him Henderson and especially Elima were off but still would be a harsh call and as Matt said there was an element of a dummy play the ball by Hardaker.

That said Duport at marker wasn't remotely square and surprised Bentham didn't notice let alone Silverwood in the box.

Do you think there is any mileage in adopting the "kick and clap" brigades direction to the TMO
1. Try -yes or no
2. Is there any reason I can not award a try

They are the only questions the on field ref can ask I believe

Silverwood ey?

If you freeze the play the ball Williams was also offside, it's not sour grapes but given what happened to the Bulls when we beat them at the Millennium stadium when Tansey was miles offside I thought for any game decisive incidents they were supposed to check everything. When you consider the Giants last play try/no try this year they checked onside three times, knock ons, obstruction, and grounding so what was the difference with the Catalan last play.