(Kal) Watkins could be back next weekend according to Brian McDermott.

That would be great news tvoc if true, last i heard he would be pushed to make the play-offs.

Don't shoot the messenger if it ain't so but that came out during the after-match press conference yesterday - as shown on the SKY SL Fulltime prog. At first it sounded like Carl Watkins but on review I managed to hear it as Kal or Cal so presume it's one of those.

Quote tvoc="tvoc"Don't shoot the messenger if it ain't so but that came out during the after-match press conference yesterday - as shown on the SKY SL Fulltime prog. At first it sounded like Carl Watkins but on review I managed to hear it as Kal or Cal so presume it's one of those.'" www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... kle-injury You must have heard correctly as i have found this from a few days ago which suggests he is making good progress.

Quote tvoc="tvoc"Don't shoot the messenger if it ain't so but that came out during the after-match press conference yesterday - as shown on the SKY SL Fulltime prog. At first it sounded like Carl Watkins but on review I managed to hear it as Kal or Cal so presume it's one of those.'" www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... kle-injury You must have heard correctly as i have found this from a few days ago which suggests he is making good progress.

I loved B McD describing Andy Barker as the prince of darkness and he now dreads him coming into his office with yet more bad news. Nice bit of humour in the after-match press conference.

Thanks Gotcha, until I read your post I had been unaware of the sheer unrelenting wear and tear that a rugby player's thumb gets in comparison with, say, knees or shoulders.

It's a damn good job I'm here then. Just to help your likes.

Of course I obviously didn't manage to dumb it down enough, as you appear to have missed the important "fatigued" bit, and somehow come up with an idea that I was comparing injuries in some way.

No, I think I got the "fatigued" bit.
You're saying that because Sinfield's body in general was fatigued, that's why he broke his thumb.

You might have a reasonable point about resting players to prevent injury and I wouldn't disagree with that, over-training and over-use can lead to apparently unrelated injuries, as I found out for myself when I used to run a lot.

But Sinfield's thumb ?
Give over.

You're obviously not getting his point here.

Just to make it real simple - if you knacked you're more likely to break your thumb because... because... well you just are OK?

Last time I was fatigued both my thumbs fell off.

This is why it is imperative the hitch-hikers get plenty of sleep, otherwise you could end up just a nutter stood on the side of the road shaking your fist at passing traffic.

No I didn't. I said that that if a player is fatigued he is more likely to pick up injuries. I mentioned nothing about what type of injury.

Could a fully fit fresh player with no fatigue avoid the injury Sinfield received? yes he could. That doesn't mean that he definitely wouldn't have had it, it means that the injury would be more likely to happen as he was so fatigued.

His body couldn't possibly be in the same condition as what it would have been had he had rests in that previous three year period.

I take it you agree with the point, taking Sinfield out of it then?