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| Quote: Frosties. "So you would rather see them walked over every week ala Leigh's superleague contribution, rather than sending a few players to them, giving them players superleague experience, and helping another poor local club out. I know which bit I would choose, end of the day, its giving players like Kyle Amor and Luke Ambler the chance to play in superleague rather than being stuck in our reserves not gaining any of the much-needed experience to boost themselves and show the coach what they are made of.'"
But they could have had that regular SL experience by being given priority at Leeds and having better faith in them.
Or do you think Cross and Kirke are better options for this season ?
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| Quote: nantwichexile "But they could have had that regular SL experience by being given priority at Leeds and having better faith in them.
Or do you think Cross and Kirke are better options for this season ?'"
Whilst I know what you're saying about Ambler/Amor instead of Cross/Kirke, I would even say I probably agreed... that's a completely different debate in its own right.
My debate is much simpler, should we be strengthening the squad of a team we're playing this week? or should we be weakening them as much as possible to gain the league points, and possibly boost our points difference? It's got to be the latter.
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Whilst I know what you're saying about Ambler/Amor instead of Cross/Kirke, I would even say I probably agreed... that's a completely different debate in its own right.
My debate is much simpler, should we be strengthening the squad of a team we're playing this week? or should we be weakening them as much as possible to gain the league points, and possibly boost our points difference? It's got to be the latter.'"
I agree. (Unless of course Amor has been told where his true allegiance should be...and that he will be renumerated accordingly )
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| I would agree 100% with remarkable on this one, strengthen another side at our own expense, as hopie says another "Botham " maybe, i hope the club dont come to regret this come 5.00pm Sunday, Im not saying tha ka would be the difference, but our injury situation is dire at best and we are loaning out individuals and fowards at that !!, do you think that you think John Kear would do that boot on tother foot, not a chance, I know what he would say.
Im all for getting these guys experience but not at our expense even if they said yea you can keep kyle, however he will not be playing against us this week as part of the deal.
I will be dissappointred if we now do not have some forwards back in the team from injury, the club should expect to be questioned if we lose this game due to the arrogance of believing we can let a player play against us in our current sutuation and with our injuries at present.
I can just seen wigan loaning a player to saints and then letting him play in the next derby !!!!!!!!!!!!
I will be diss
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Whilst I know what you're saying about Ambler/Amor instead of Cross/Kirke, I would even say I probably agreed... that's a completely different debate in its own right.
My debate is much simpler, should we be strengthening the squad of a team we're playing this week? or should we be weakening them as much as possible to gain the league points, and possibly boost our points difference? It's got to be the latter.'"
I agree, and I would go further. By this I think we are understanding that Kylie and Bailey are back. Would it not be better to have a guy in who is playing, fit, and on form at the moment (judging by MOM last week), than a guy who has not played since last season.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I agree, and I would go further. By this I think we are understanding that Kylie and Bailey are back. Would it not be better to have a guy in who is playing, fit, and on form at the moment (judging by MOM last week), than a guy who has not played since last season.'"
Again, I'm not so much saying Amor should be playing for us over Bailey. It's a debate in its own right. Perhaps he should (although there's an argument that Bailey is always going to have a 'first game back', so that should probably be against Wakefield.) but more that Amor should not be playing for them.
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| Listening to some on here last season he was all written off without a chance of Super League rugby.
Funny old world.
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| Any clause forbidding him from playing would presumably have had to be written into the original loan agreement.
At that time, Leeds would have anticipated having at least three of Burgess, Cross, Bailey and Leuluai available for this fixture, all of whom they would regard as better players than Amor. If he's not good enough to get into your first team, why worry about having to play against him?
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I'd rather see two points. All this moral "I'd rather beat a full strength side, because it feels sweeter" mumbo jumbo I just can't get on board with.
I'd rather walk all over them. It'll boost the points difference if nothing else. Not saying we will, in fact I'm sure we won't. I'm just saying, there's no room for morals, and "making other teams competitive", that's just tosh.
Bottom line is thus; Amor, what ever impact he may have on our squad, definitely improves the Wakefield squad. Why should we strengthen the squad of a team we're playing this week? We shouldn't.'"
Relax.
It's only Wakefield.
Just like it was only Salford the week before last.
These fixtures exist to provide teams like Leeds with a breather, along with an opportunity to paper over the cracks.
Another meaningless SL fixture in the grand scheme of things.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "I agree. (Unless of course
Tee hee.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "being ! (Sorry to steal your thunder ? wheels)'"
Eh? Where?
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| Quote: Wheels "Eh? Where?'"
Would it have been better ?? ....I really do have problems with this being and been (my achille's heel)
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Listening to some on here last season he was all written off without a chance of Super League rugby.
Funny old world.'"
I'm not proclaiming Amor as the new JP. Nor am I saying he'd even get into our squad (even in its current state!).
Whatever Amor's impact on Leeds' squad, or Super League in general, is irrelevant. He improves Wakefield's squad. And it makes no sense whatsoever to improve the squad of the team you're playing against. Even if it is "only Wakefield".
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Bottom line is thus; Amor, what ever impact he may have on our squad, definitely improves the Wakefield squad. Why should we strengthen the squad of a team we're playing this week? We shouldn't.'"
You want Amor to have first team experience at SL standard - but you want to dictate to Wakey which games he can and can't play?
Is it just me, or is this a nailed on case of having the cake and eating it too?
Imagine if Leeds had done as you suggest - what message does that send out to other teams when we're trying to offload players on them via a loan?
Anyway - surely playing against Leeds would be good for Amor? A chance to show BM what he is (or isn't) missing....
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| Quote: Hopie "I can feel a "Liam Botham" moment coming on'"
He was absolutley everywhere in that game.
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