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Quote: RhinoNeil "Brian Mac certainly has the tools for the flair and glamour rugby that everyone wants to see. '"


What is this opinion based on? Presumably not his coaching career to date?

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Quote: sgtwilko "the thing is we actually have the players to play breath taking rugby the bulls simple didnt/still dont'"



When McNamara took over we had Hape, Vainikolo, Fielden, Bai, Harris, Vagana, Meyers, McKenna and Deacon

Plenty of useful tools.

In 2007 (his first full year) we still had, Vainikolo, Hape, Harris, Vagana, Newton, Lynch, Solomona, McKenna, Deacon, Burgess & Morrison.

And we finished lower down the table.

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Quote: Bullseye "When McNamara took over we had Hape, Vainikolo, Fielden, Bai, Harris, Vagana, Meyers, McKenna and Deacon

Plenty of useful tools.

In 2007 (his first full year) we still had, Vainikolo, Hape, Harris, Vagana, Newton, Lynch, Solomona, McKenna, Deacon, Burgess & Morrison.

And we finished lower down the table.'"

Apart from Burgess and Lynch the rest were either "past it" or injured every other week.
Of course like some have already posted the proof will out eventually.

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Some may have been past their best, but they were still top players in SL.

Quite a few Leeds players are in that bracket and approaching the top of the hill.

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Quote: Bullseye "Some may have been past their best, but they were still top players in SL.

Quite a few Leeds players are in that bracket and approaching the top of the hill.'"

As much as i don't rate Mcbanana IF they were still top players in SL surely they'd of finished better than they did irrespective of a gash coach.
We do have players approaching the "curtain call" of their careers i agree completely and i actually thought a couple at least that are still here would of gone by now but i think the depth of squad and players still with plenty of quality out-weighs the Bradford situation comfortably.

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Quote: Bullseye "When McNamara took over we had Hape, Vainikolo, Fielden, Bai, Harris, Vagana, Meyers, McKenna and Deacon

Plenty of useful tools.

In 2007 (his first full year) we still had, Vainikolo, Hape, Harris, Vagana, Newton, Lynch, Solomona, McKenna, Deacon, Burgess & Morrison.

And we finished lower down the table.'"

The main point is we don't have mc bannana as coach. Hence all comparisons completely irrelivant!

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Harry Pinner "What is this opinion based on? Presumably not his coaching career to date?'"
well you could look at it like this. that with nothing like the strength in depth or the calliber of squad as pretty much all the sl times quins for periods under brain mac were taking big scalps week in week out and at times were a real force and for long periods of a few seasons looked like real play off contenders. i conceed that come season end with players missing or knackered with a smaller weaker squad than most quins fell away and went out with a wimper. i think brain mac is a good coach. im looking forward to him coaching leeds and have faith in him. it seems the players do too.

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Quote: sgtwilko "well you could look at it like this. that with nothing like the strength in depth or the calliber of squad as pretty much all the sl times quins for periods under brain mac were taking big scalps week in week out and at times were a real force and for long periods of a few seasons looked like real play off contenders. i conceed that come season end with players missing or knackered with a smaller weaker squad than most quins fell away and went out with a wimper. i think brain mac is a good coach. im looking forward to him coaching leeds and have faith in him. it seems the players do too.'"

Agree with this but as stated previous only time will tell

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Bullseye "When McNamara took over we had Hape, Vainikolo, Fielden, Bai, Harris, Vagana, Meyers, McKenna and Deacon

Plenty of useful tools.

In 2007 (his first full year) we still had, Vainikolo, Hape, Harris, Vagana, Newton, Lynch, Solomona, McKenna, Deacon, Burgess & Morrison.

And we finished lower down the table.'"

to be honest mate i was thinking about 08, 09. leeds have danny maggs, burrow, lee smith, brent webb, ryan hall, bjb, sinfield, buderus, ablett, ali, jjb, watkins, hardaker. this says more about sl but senior is still in the top 3 centres in sl. he had no problem out sprinting matt king and others at wire in 2010.

leeds have plenty of quality and its still in its prime. a few senior heads too but the bulk of them are quick strong and very skillful but young.

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Leeds have a strong side at the moment. How long is McDermott's contract? If it's 3 years he'll have to manage the transition which will be a big challenge. Next season will be interesting as Leeds are without Peacock and McGuire early on. Those two were arguably your two most influential players in 2010. Might be a sign of how he'll cope in future years as top players gradually leave.

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Quote: Bullseye "Leeds have a strong side at the moment. How long is McDermott's contract? If it's 3 years he'll have to manage the transition which will be a big challenge. Next season will be interesting as Leeds are without Peacock and McGuire early on. Those two were arguably your two most influential players in 2010. Might be a sign of how he'll cope in future years as top players gradually leave.'"

Certainly going to be a challenging start for him without two quality players avalable to him. But also he has had a better pre season with more ayers than we usually get starting together!

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Quote: Bullseye "Leeds have a strong side at the moment. How long is McDermott's contract? If it's 3 years he'll have to manage the transition which will be a big challenge. Next season will be interesting as Leeds are without Peacock and McGuire early on. Those two were arguably your two most influential players in 2010. Might be a sign of how he'll cope in future years as top players gradually leave.'"

Completely agree mate ,he will be around for the biggest transition in terms of player turn-over for the last 10 yrs and will certainly test his coaching credentials.
I also think it's gonna be crucial who he brings in as his assistants and u20's coach.

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Quote: Bullseye "Some may have been past their best, but they were still top players in SL.

Quite a few Leeds players are in that bracket and approaching the top of the hill.'"



In fairness Bai and McKenna were too old even for us.

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Quote: Harry Pinner "What is this opinion based on? Presumably not his coaching career to date?'"


Won as much silverware as Potter.

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Will he be as inspired an appointment as Tony Smith or Dean Lance?

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