Sinfield blew two overlaps by not having the speed of thought to shift the ball, his kick from the 20 was a turning point in the game which I would have taken him off for.

In terms of tackling I would be interested to know the stats in terms of how effective he is when first in to the tackle, he generally gets pushed back 5 meters until help arrives.

He is without doubt Leeds most overrated player that I can remember in the my history of watching Leeds.

Oh well my bad!! Didnt remember him playing

Sorry I forot about Donald, make that the second most overrated, christ he's garbage.

Even Ratu had no idea where Donald was going to appear/disappear to next.

Sinfield's a good club player and a very good goalkicker as well as the captain. I've never thought, however, that he has that extra 'something' to really be considered a great beyond his career at Leeds. TBH I don't think many Leeds fans do?

Correct, great club players are regular internationals, at the moment good club players are regular GB internationals.

however did we ever win anything with so many vastly overrated players?

in a vastly overated league

I think some of our other players have real ability - Webb, Donald (on his day and as a finisher), Senior, McGuire, Lauti'iti and Peacock are exceptional individuals IMO. Given the constraints of the salary cap we'll never have absolute stars from 1-17, and neither will anyone else. The rest of the team can play to their best when it matters for Leeds, as shown by the last two GFs.

the salary cap is a real leveler so the management takes the credit for average & youth players fitting in among the class, Sinfield fits in the set up, kicking apart he is no better than Dave Heron would have been off the booze and training 5 days a week.

That's a bit of a harsh judgement based on one game. His form last season (including the GF) and in the early part of this season suggest Leeds would have been well-served keeping him.

As well as the other players already mentioned, Lauitiiti's stats are pretty poor for one of our elite players. Not much of an impact from the bench from him.

AS I saw it we didn't seem to go down the left hand side too much, after Keith's initial knockons he didn't seem to get presented the ball much in a position where he could run at his opposite number.

Considering that he has been one of our best attacking options this season that, to me, was surprising.

donald has ability but sinfield, by implication, doesn't ?!?!

bang goes your credibility

like tad said, how do we ever win a game with such rubbish as Sinfield and Diskin in the team .... especially as these "mediocre" players have been a mainstay over 5 years

the monday morning quarterbacks on southstander have spoken again