they did yesterday, unfortunately it was only for 10 minutes

2 points for Huddersfield probably won’t see them finishing above Hull KR, with the points difference.

Probably not, but those 2 IMO have earned a bit leeway due to their contribution to the clubs great successes down the years.

The team has not improved since his return but I'm not sure how much blame for that lies with Ferres.
I'm no great fan but not sure to single him out atm is fair. The majority of the team are under performing and confidence is shot. As others have said his penalties conceded are probably no worse than some other players. No idea how he conducts himself regarding drinking away from the pitch but if it is effecting his game I have total confidence that Sinfield would deal with it.
He has been a poor signing overall but he looks fitter than at any other time in his Leeds career.

Grand Final Team 2017 - Walker; Briscoe, Watkins, Sutcliffe, Hall; Moon, McGuire; Singleton, Parcell, Garbutt, Jones-Buchanan, Ward, Cuthbertson. ReplacementsFerres, Mullally

Team against Cas last Sunday -Golding; T Briscoe, L Sutcliffe, Moon, Hall; Lilley, Myler; Oledzki, Parcell, Singleton, Ward, Ferres, Cuthbertson. ReplacementsWalker, Mullally, Delaney.

That's 11 of the 17. So does the absence of Watkins, Burrow & McGuire really make the difference. !

Last year's GF was an example of the infinite monkey theorem. There can be no other explanation for your lucky victory.

I'm liking 10th. The benefit of 4 home games plus a trip to Canada.

That would require no wins and HKR winning a game !

Glad that you're all still feeling the heartbreak

Your GF loss last season despite running away with the Hub Cap was an example of the infinite Swagger like Jagger theorem of
"When tha losses thi swagger then you're in bovva cos the winners are always grinners
At leest tha won't bi playin us in a final soon so tha cud actually possibly win one foe wonce.....A carn't speyk

I think we'll look back at 2017 as our 'lucky last' GF, as it was a year when big guns like Sts and Wigan hugely underperformed, and Cas imploded at the pointy end of the season. It probably adversely affected this year by falsely inflating how good we were as a team.

OTOH I don't think we're anywhere near as bad as we've been playing. Whilst we can compare our squad unfavourably to the top 4, even with injuries it stacks up pretty well against everyone else player for player. We're not facing the Storm every week (or even Cas), and some of our players need to have a serious look at themselves.

Wakey may be dragged into this too !

6
Wakefield POINTS 18 + 2 = 20
Leeds A - WIN
Hull H - LOSS
Huddersfield A - LOSS


7
Catalans POINTS 18 + 2 = 20
WarringtonA - LOSS
Salford H - WIN
Wigan A - LOSS

8
Huddersfield - POINTS 17 + 2 = 19
Wigan H - LOSS
Castleford A - LOSS
Wakefield H - WIN

9
Leeds - POINTS 15 + 2 = 17
Wakefield H - LOSS
Widnes H - WIN
Salford A - LOSS ?

10
Hull KR POINTS 13 + 2 = 15
Widnes A WIN
Warrington H LOSS
Hull A LOSS

11
Salford POINTS 12 + 2 = 14
Castleford H - LOSS
Catalans A - LOSS
Leeds H - WIN

Huddersfield will beat either Wigan or Cas.

The league table does not lie.
The bottom line is, we need a win tomorrow and improve enough to get us back in the top 8

They wont.

A must win game