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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Fair point - I stand corrected'"
Blimey, I never thought I'd ever see a post like this on here. |
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| Quote Wheels="Wheels"Blimey, I never thought I'd ever see a post like this on here.'"
Sometimes you have to admit you got it wrong? |
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Sometimes you have to admit you got it wrong?'"
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Sometimes you have to admit you got it wrong?'"
Really.
Did Melbourne send the best team they could muster for last season's WCC then? |
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"Really.
Did Melbourne send the best team they could muster for last season's WCC then?'"
Did Inglis play, did Cameron Smith play?
So did Leeds play a full strength Melbourne no!! but a more worthy victory than the one against Canterbury?
Think we all agree the victory over Melbourne was the start of the overseas sides taking the WCC seriously - how many did Leeds/SL sides win subsequently? |
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Did Inglis play, did Cameron Smith play?
So did Leeds play a full strength Melbourne no!! but a more worthy victory than the one against Canterbury?
Think we all agree the victory over Melbourne was the start of the overseas sides taking the WCC seriously - how many did Leeds/SL sides win subsequently?'"
That's not what tvoc was saying is it?
If by taking it seriously you mean making sure they paid their squad even more than they were allowed then in Melbournes case you are right.
Manly took it very seriously and won comfortably whereas St George planned a weeks holiday and still won it. |
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"That's not what tvoc was saying is it?
If by taking it seriously you mean making sure they paid their squad even more than they were allowed then in Melbournes case you are right.
Manly took it very seriously and won comfortably whereas St George planned a weeks holiday and still won it.'"
On Melbourne - had it been a GF would Inglis and Smith played? so was it the best they could muster or the best they chose to muster - only the Storm know?
The difference was St George didn't need to plan like Manley - they were that superior - good job any SL didn't play them now it would have been a serious embarrassment. |
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Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Did Inglis play, did Cameron Smith play?
So did Leeds play a full strength Melbourne no!! but a more worthy victory than the one against Canterbury?'"
Did Inglis play - eh ... Yes
Did Smith play - eh ... Yes
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Think we all agree the victory over Melbourne was the start of the overseas sides taking the WCC seriously - how many did Leeds/SL sides win subsequently?'"
Leeds lost V Melbourne last season (2010) which is the game 'we' were discussing last season not the Leeds win from 2008.
You remember it's the one you said we'd have to wait and see which team Melbourne put out in Round 1 of the NRL season to see how serious they were taking the WCC.
You remember it was the thread you never returned to:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61 |
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Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Did Inglis play, did Cameron Smith play?
So did Leeds play a full strength Melbourne no!! but a more worthy victory than the one against Canterbury?'"
Did Inglis play - eh ... Yes
Did Smith play - eh ... Yes
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Think we all agree the victory over Melbourne was the start of the overseas sides taking the WCC seriously - how many did Leeds/SL sides win subsequently?'"
Leeds lost V Melbourne last season (2010) which is the game 'we' were discussing last season not the Leeds win from 2008.
You remember it's the one you said we'd have to wait and see which team Melbourne put out in Round 1 of the NRL season to see how serious they were taking the WCC.
You remember it was the thread you never returned to:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61 | |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"Did Inglis play - eh ... Yes
Did Smith play - eh ... Yes
Leeds lost V Melbourne last season (2010) which is the game 'we' were discussing last season not the Leeds win from 2008.
You remember it's the one you said we'd have to wait and see which team Melbourne put out in Round 1 of the NRL season to see how serious they were taking the WCC.
You remember it was the thread you never returned to:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309'"
Sorry thought you were talking about the game we actually won.
Did melbourne take it seriously - the only only person who really knows is Craig Bellamy - end of.
Only a fool would believe the WCC is as important to a NRL side as the regular league is? The reason the NRL sides are now winning is an illustration of the widening gap in standards between the two leagues - something that was well exposed when the quad nations was played - would you not agree. |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"Did Inglis play - eh ... Yes
Did Smith play - eh ... Yes
Leeds lost V Melbourne last season (2010) which is the game 'we' were discussing last season not the Leeds win from 2008.
You remember it's the one you said we'd have to wait and see which team Melbourne put out in Round 1 of the NRL season to see how serious they were taking the WCC.
You remember it was the thread you never returned to:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309'"
Sorry thought you were talking about the game we actually won.
Did melbourne take it seriously - the only only person who really knows is Craig Bellamy - end of.
Only a fool would believe the WCC is as important to a NRL side as the regular league is? The reason the NRL sides are now winning is an illustration of the widening gap in standards between the two leagues - something that was well exposed when the quad nations was played - would you not agree. | |
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I linked to the thread that was running last season. See for yourself from this post forward viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61.
You set the criteria:
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"One thing is pretty certain, Melbourne will field their strongest side available for round one of the NRL competition. The nature/competitiveness of that league demands that.
That is the comparison that should be made with the team that plays on Sunday IMO - if the two sides are pretty similar 1/2 changes then that is a good indication that Melbourne have given the game the gravitas some on here believe it deserves - however if the side show 6/7 changes then you know they have treated the WCC as a warm up game.
Time will tell'"
Time did tell (1 change in Round 1 of the NRL season), again and again and again, that Melbourne had sent and played the best squad that was available to them despite your earlier claim that:
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"The WCC is the least important of the so-called major games, so important to Melbourne that they have left half a side in Australia targeted with being fit for round 1 of the NRL. '"
It was proven (by your own terms) that Melbourne had sent the very best squad that they had available (notwithstanding several injuries) to the WCC game V Leeds in 2010.
Unfortunately you failed to contribute further back then but here's your chance now. |
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I linked to the thread that was running last season. See for yourself from this post forward viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61.
You set the criteria:
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"One thing is pretty certain, Melbourne will field their strongest side available for round one of the NRL competition. The nature/competitiveness of that league demands that.
That is the comparison that should be made with the team that plays on Sunday IMO - if the two sides are pretty similar 1/2 changes then that is a good indication that Melbourne have given the game the gravitas some on here believe it deserves - however if the side show 6/7 changes then you know they have treated the WCC as a warm up game.
Time will tell'"
Time did tell (1 change in Round 1 of the NRL season), again and again and again, that Melbourne had sent and played the best squad that was available to them despite your earlier claim that:
Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"The WCC is the least important of the so-called major games, so important to Melbourne that they have left half a side in Australia targeted with being fit for round 1 of the NRL. '"
It was proven (by your own terms) that Melbourne had sent the very best squad that they had available (notwithstanding several injuries) to the WCC game V Leeds in 2010.
Unfortunately you failed to contribute further back then but here's your chance now. | |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"I linked to the thread that was running last season. See for yourself from this post forward viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61.
You set the criteria:
Time did tell (1 change in Round 1 of the NRL season), again and again and again, that Melbourne had sent and played the best squad that was available to them despite your earlier claim that:
It was proven (by your own terms) that Melbourne had sent the very best squad that they had available (notwithstanding several injuries) to the WCC game V Leeds in 2010.
Unfortunately you failed to contribute further back then but here's your chance now.'"
My response is simple the only people who know how seriously Melbourne took this game are the coaches and players of the Storm. Anything else is opinion - is yours any more valid than mine no - is mine any more valid than yours no - simple really? |
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Quote tvoc="tvoc"I linked to the thread that was running last season. See for yourself from this post forward viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446309&start=61.
You set the criteria:
Time did tell (1 change in Round 1 of the NRL season), again and again and again, that Melbourne had sent and played the best squad that was available to them despite your earlier claim that:
It was proven (by your own terms) that Melbourne had sent the very best squad that they had available (notwithstanding several injuries) to the WCC game V Leeds in 2010.
Unfortunately you failed to contribute further back then but here's your chance now.'"
My response is simple the only people who know how seriously Melbourne took this game are the coaches and players of the Storm. Anything else is opinion - is yours any more valid than mine no - is mine any more valid than yours no - simple really? | |
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"All well and good - name a top quality centre that has come to SL since Lyon? These players are in very short supply - there are 6-10 in the game, they all play in the NRL - a player of suitable quality will not come here whilst they are still able to compete in the NRL.
Watkins is the future and the efforts should be spent developing him physically to stand up to the rigours of the game and playing to get his standards up to the correct level.
There are only 3 you centres in SL who may be suitable Arundel, Evans and Whelham IMO - sadly Clubb looks have gone backwards - possible coaching/environment issue.'"
Matt King, although he was poor for at least his first season |
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