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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "Oh, trust me, that performance can never be erased from my memory... I'm just glad I was sat so far back I could hardly see it. But.... Warrington have won the CC 7 times.... Leeds... 11.

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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "Oh, trust me, that performance can never be erased from my memory... I'm just glad I was sat so far back I could hardly see it. But.... Warrington have won the CC 7 times.... Leeds... 11.
Exactly what relevance does Leeds having won 11 challenge cups have for tomorrow's final?

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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "Oh, trust me, that performance can never be erased from my memory... I'm just glad I was sat so far back I could hardly see it. But.... Warrington have won the CC 7 times.... Leeds... 11. eusa_whistle.gif Warrington have a long way to go to reach the sucess that Leeds, St Helens, Wigan and Bradford have acheived if you want to look back over the years.[/quo ------------ icon_rolleyes.gif-----------------

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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "Oh, trust me, that performance can never be erased from my memory... I'm just glad I was sat so far back I could hardly see it. But.... Warrington have won the CC 7 times.... Leeds... 11. eusa_shhh.gif

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Quote: G1 "He came off the bench and he went into dummy half but as Buderus remained on the field I duobt anyine would say he played hooker.'"


Agreed but having Burrow coming off the bench on 26 minutes, as he did at Old Trafford that night, allowed him an edge in energy to dart around, mixing and matching, looking to exploit gaps that are less likely to open up in the early exchanges. Burrow IMO has always been most effective when challenging the line with elusive, scampering runs in and around tiring defences rather than with a devastating passing game that you might traditionally expect from a starting half-back.

You are also correct to highlight that Danny Buderus played the full eighty minutes and was absolute world class quality just as he had been throughout and in particular during the play-off series of 2011 when finally unleased for the full match durations. He was at acting half for 69.53% of the Leeds total of play the balls plus he defended in the middle third throughout and was again superb defensively. Bar Burrow's eye-catching moments of genius (which will often sway the MOTM voting) Buderus was my pick as Leeds' star player.

Compare that to what we've had to endure in that crucial position this season and you have to question the sanity of releasing Buderus without first securing an adequate replacement? Some thought Hood would be ready to step up as 1st choice but it appears the coaching staff felt it was too soon.

Quote: G1 " Unless Ryan Hall played hooker because he went in to dummy half a few times.'"


I don't believe Ryan Hall went into dummy half at all during the 2011 Grand Final so I think it's safe to agree that he didn't play hooker that night. You could have had Webb (9), Sinfield (9), McGuire (icon_cool.gif, Ablett (3), Jones-Bishop (1), Hardaker (1), Jones-Buchanan (1) Buderus or Burrow but not Hall unfortunately.

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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "The same relevance that this comment has...

HENCE why posting it.
Try looking up 'relevance' somewhere. The past record of each club ( especially the further back you go ) clearly has zero relevance in how this year's cup final would ( and did ) play out. The fact that Wire in the club's entire history have won less trophies than Wigan, Leeds or Saints does not diminish the quality of the current Warrington team. You sound like one of those Wiganers identified by NickyKiss as 'in denial' about Wire's quality. Try to remember that praising another side in no way implies a lack of faith in your own team. Give a bit of credit.

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Quote: tvoc "Agreed but having Burrow coming off the bench on 26 minutes, as he did at Old Trafford that night, allowed him an edge in energy to dart around, mixing and matching, looking to exploit gaps that are less likely to open up in the early exchanges. Burrow IMO has always been most effective when challenging the line with elusive, scampering runs in and around tiring defences rather than with a devastating passing game that you might traditionally expect from a starting half-back.

You are also correct to highlight that Danny Buderus played the full eighty minutes and was absolute world class quality just as he had been throughout and in particular during the play-off series of 2011 when finally unleased for the full match durations. He was at acting half for 69.53% of the Leeds total of play the balls plus he defended in the middle third throughout and was again superb defensively. Bar Burrow's eye-catching moments of genius (which will often sway the MOTM voting) Buderus was my pick as Leeds' star player.

Compare that to what we've had to endure in that crucial position this season and you have to question the sanity of releasing Buderus without first securing an adequate replacement? Some thought Hood would be ready to step up as 1st choice but it appears the coaching staff felt it was too soon. .'"


Absolutely AGREE ... icon_smile.gif

....a key factor throughout Buderus' tenure .... How often did Leeds look their best as a team coincide with Buderus playing the FULL 80 ??

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