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| Quote: tvoc "What if a defendant (not necessarily in this case but just generally) was sat there smirking or looking at witnesses in a threatening manner throughout their trial? I'd like to think that such court demeanour was taken into account when it came to sentencing and I'd imagine that would be best achieved by the trial judge. Just a layman's point of view.'"
If a defendant was convicted following a trial he/she would be sentenced by the trial judge. |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Cibaman "If a defendant was convicted following a trial he/she would be sentenced by the trial judge.'" .....as had already been explained further up the thread. |
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "Whats the reason for the 4 week gap between the judgement and the sentancing?'"
So they could track down Leon? |
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| Quote: Cibaman "If a defendant was convicted following a trial he/she would be sentenced by the trial judge.'"
As I said earlier it was a general comment but even where there is a gap between trial and sentencing (for pre- sentencing reports etc) I would still imagine that wherever possible it would be preferable for the trial judge to follow the case through to sentencing. |
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| Quote: G1 "Yes because there's an objective, impartial source............
S'funny because I heard the exact opposite. That a bag of cash was asked for to make the complaint go away.'"
fair point, it's not impartial.
yet you seem happy to believe "what you were told", so hearsay and tittle tattle is ok and must be the truth then |
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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "Individuals who follow guidelines put in place by a vast legal concensus. Individuals who can be challenged at appeal if their judgement is seen to be outside normal established guidlines. Ultimately a decision if contentious can be decided by a panel of judges, law Lords or the European Court.'"
By which time you have most likely spent unnecessary time depriced of your liberty!!
Read the YEP and the sentances given out by Hoffman and compare to similar offences and the sentances doled out by others.
Read any local paper at the judgements - driving without insurance should be a really simply judgement 1st time £100, second time £200 etc but look at the desparity - a judicial system needs to be transperent and equitable |
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Read any local paper at the judgements - driving without insurance should be a really simply judgement 1st time £100, second time £200 etc but look at the desparity - a judicial system needs to be transperent and equitable'"
So you wouldn't differentiate between being a day late with a renewal, and driving for weeks with no intention of insuring?
Beside the point, but the size of fine you propose would make it cheaper to go without that actually get insured. |
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| Quote: Richie "So you wouldn't differentiate between being a day late with a renewal, and driving for weeks with no intention of insuring?
Beside the point, but the size of fine you propose would make it cheaper to go without that actually get insured.'"
nope. you should be insured if driving. it's the drivers responsibility to be insured |
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "
Read any local paper at the judgements - driving without insurance should be a really simply judgement 1st time £100, second time £200 etc but look at the desparity - a judicial system needs to be transperent and equitable'" The fines for driving without insurance should be a lot higher than the premium would be for the car/driver without the insurance. A fine of £100 is hardly going to make someone who had a £2000 premium get insurance! |
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "By which time you have most likely spent unnecessary time depriced of your liberty!!
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You were talking about sentencing, not the verdict. If you think a custodial sentence is too long or too short there is an appeals process. Sentencing guidlines are in place and they are not decided by one person, any judgement must comply with guidlelines or it is open to challenge. |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tad rhino "fair point, it's not impartial.
yet you seem happy to believe "what you were told", so hearsay and tittle tattle is ok and must be the truth then'" I never said I believed it, just that I heard it. |
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| Quote: tad rhino "fair point, it's not impartial.
yet you seem happy to believe "what you were told", so hearsay and tittle tattle is ok and must be the truth then'"
Dont you just love the forum Tad with all these who are " in the know " See you tonight old boy dont forget the sweeties  |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: joshua102 "Dont you just love the forum Tad with all these who are " in the know " See you tonight old boy dont forget the sweeties ![]()
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| Quote: tad rhino "nope. you should be insured if driving. it's the drivers responsibility to be insured'"
Or driving at 77mph on the motorway and 245mph? |
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| Quote: G1 "Shouldn't you have PM'd that?'"
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