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Golding/Sutcliffe
Briscoe Watkins Sutcliffe/Handley Hall
Mcguire Moon
Galloway Parcell Cuthbertson
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JJB

Mullally Garbutt Ward Singleton

Burrow Handley/Golding

Heard that Burrow has a shoulder problem.

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If Leeds went with Sutcliffe at fullback and Handley centre they wouldn't stand a chance.

Also heard Burrow was out.

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Quote: Gotcha "If Leeds went with Sutcliffe at fullback and Handley centre they wouldn't stand a chance.

Also heard Burrow was out.'"


I couldn't agree more Gotcha, but that's what McD will go with as you know pretty well yourself.

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Becomes even bigger, either team could be eight points clear of Wigan. That's big at any point of the season.

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Quote: Frosties. "Becomes even bigger, either team could be eight points clear of Wigan. That's big at any point of the season.'"


Yeah it's getting tougher to see Wigan making the 4 now, they're running out of games and the gap is getting too big. Next league for them is Hudds away, on current form you've got to fancy Hudds and that would leave Wigan scrambling to avoid the bottom 4.

WRT the Leeds team I suppose it largely depends on Golding's fitness. McDermott did say post match last week that Burrow jarred his shoulder so probably good chance that he is missing as rumoured.

If we have to go Sutcliffe FB and Handley Centre it's not as strong as Golding FB Sutcliffe Centre but it's hardly to the extent of "don't stand a chance" which is the usual OTT stuff.

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wrencat - BJB used to play for Leeds remember? He's a good finisher, but my point still stands. If either of your wingers wanted to go to the NRL they'd have to stack on muscle just to compete. Hall OTOH could fit in straight away because in terms of what is needed from a winger in the NRL he's got the full package.

TBH its a bit sad that smaller fast wingers aren't as valuable as they were (Regan Grace is lovely to watch but he needs to bulk up hugely to survive). I genuinely think the game's a bit poorer for it. Even an Offiah would struggle nowadays, although he'd no doubt specialise in the acrobatic finishes.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "wrencat - BJB used to play for Leeds remember? He's a good finisher, but my point still stands. If either of your wingers wanted to go to the NRL they'd have to stack on muscle just to compete. Hall OTOH could fit in straight away because in terms of what is needed from a winger in the NRL he's got the full package.

TBH its a bit sad that smaller fast wingers aren't as valuable as they were (Regan Grace is lovely to watch but he needs to bulk up hugely to survive). I genuinely think the game's a bit poorer for it. Even an Offiah would struggle nowadays, although he'd no doubt specialise in the acrobatic finishes.'"

offiah didn't need acrobatics or power (although watch some of he's tries is is deceptively strong, not like hall)
he has so much pace not no if we will ever see anyone completely redefine what pacer means in the game like he did ever again. i mean there we quick players around, Keith fielding Des drummond both set records in 100m on BBC super stars, offiah could have easily be a world class 100m runner and with is swerve and balance could have been awesome over 200m.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "wrencat - BJB used to play for Leeds remember? He's a good finisher, but my point still stands. If either of your wingers wanted to go to the NRL they'd have to stack on muscle just to compete. Hall OTOH could fit in straight away because in terms of what is needed from a winger in the NRL he's got the full package.

TBH its a bit sad that smaller fast wingers aren't as valuable as they were (Regan Grace is lovely to watch but he needs to bulk up hugely to survive). I genuinely think the game's a bit poorer for it. Even an Offiah would struggle nowadays, although he'd no doubt specialise in the acrobatic finishes.'"


Is the problem if you bulk up too much you lose some of your pace which defeats the object of having a fast winger.
I know it is part of the modern game but I still think it is a shame that modern day wingers have to act like an extra forward at times.
As you rightly say the likes of Offiah would struggle in today's game, but seeing him in full flight was a great sight, which is something we have lost from the modern game to an extent.

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The thing is though that overall speed doesn't really matter as much as it used to because there isn't the space to use it. What matters is acceleration getting up to speed over 10-20-30 metres and that comes from power. Even Rob Burrow with his height and low centre of gravity doesnt have great top end speed.

Frankly having s winger that has great pace over 100metres isn't all that useful.

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McDermott confirmed both Ward & Goldong back in tomorrow.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Half a yard of space ??
You need to watch MCB or BJB' s highlights.
They have both been scoring tries with just the ball on the ground and being fully airborne.
The pair of them only need inches, not half a yard You do remember BJB played in front of us longer than he has for your mob. We know who he is.

MCB is on the crest of a wave. I don't give a fook how he goes in a one off game on Saturday or half a dozen games. It's all about longevity. BJB has had a career of rocks an diamonds, he's looked both great and $hit in GF's. The other bloke has done nowt. Let's come back to him in a few years and recap.

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Quote: Frosties. "McDermott confirmed both Ward & Goldong back in tomorrow.'"

Where? Linky links?

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Quote: sgtwilko "You do remember BJB played in front of us longer than he has for your mob. We know who he is.'"

So according to your logic he hasn't improved since playing with our mob then.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "The thing is though that overall speed doesn't really matter as much as it used to because there isn't the space to use it. What matters is acceleration getting up to speed over 10-20-30 metres and that comes from power. Even Rob Burrow with his height and low centre of gravity doesnt have great top end speed.

Frankly having s winger that has great pace over 100metres isn't all that useful.'"
You have spouted some crap over the years but this is a real gem.

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When BJB was with us I think touching the corner post still wasn't allowed, allowing wingers to get away with touching the corner flag has helped a lot of wingers look better than they are. Personally not a fan of it and would prefer a return to players not being allowed to touch the corner flag.

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