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| Quote: southern_rhino "got to agree, hudds were terrible. on the back of all that they could only get a draw? ive never seen a ref be so inept. if that wasnt obstruction then i really have no idea what is. certainly not the first half leeds one!
as for the ref, he gave hudds 20m illegally leading up to their 2nd try. knock on on hudd 10m line, free play. hudds knock on in tackle 20ms down and he ignores it to give them first tackle claiming it was a free play. well i never realised on free plays the rules get ignored....
someone how we went from the most disciplined team of the season (65 pens all year) to very nearly doubling it under silverpud (ok slight exaggeration, but was it 12 in the end?!?!)
other than that i though we defended very well. it was only broughs kicking that finally unlocked out defence, but only on the back of some seriously sustained pressure.
as for the last minute burrow slip. im pretty certain it would of gone unstairs and St steve would of found an obscure rule to disallow it I thought people were in front of peacocks kick at first viewing
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| Quote: The Eagle "There was barely any contract, and the ball was well away. Cuthbo should have slid across to cover the gap but looks like he has a litle rest, and if anything moves into huby'"
If you substitute Danny Mags for Huby it would have been a penalty for lurking in the line every day of the week.This was no different.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Stop been a biased idiot. Huddersfield were absolute garbage that first half, a really poor side.
Your own fans were none stop moaning that time for Anderson to go, Cudroe is a waster, and where have you gone Brough. Soon changed their tune in the second half,'"
Seems anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a biased? Only you could suggest the Giants were worse than the likes of Widnes or Wakefield!!
They showed in the second half what a talented side they can be
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| first 10 minutes we were the better side, then you owned the rest of the first half, but 2nd half we were all over you, and as i've said on our board, credit to your defence for only conceding 16 points as we threw everything at you, i can't remember you getting anywhere near our line in the 2nd half until the last 6-7 minutes.
so if we were the worst team some of you have seen, then how bad must leeds be?
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| Quote: southern_rhino "got to agree, hudds were terrible. on the back of all that they could only get a draw? ive never seen a ref be so inept. if that wasnt obstruction then i really have no idea what is. certainly not the first half leeds one!
as for the ref, he gave hudds 20m illegally leading up to their 2nd try. knock on on hudd 10m line, free play. hudds knock on in tackle 20ms down and he ignores it to give them first tackle claiming it was a free play. well i never realised on free plays the rules get ignored....
someone how we went from the most disciplined team of the season (65 pens all year) to very nearly doubling it under silverpud (ok slight exaggeration, but was it 12 in the end?!?!)
other than that i though we defended very well. it was only broughs kicking that finally unlocked out defence, but only on the back of some seriously sustained pressure.
as for the last minute burrow slip. im pretty certain it would of gone unstairs and St steve would of found an obscure rule to disallow it
You appear to have overlooked Ablett's knock on in the lead up to the first try - just for some balance also Mulhern's rip in front of his own posts!! It wasnt all one way
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| I thought Mulhern was excellent: he completely owned Crabtree. Gut feeling that Singleton and Mulhern could both have a big future in this team.
Keinhorst's contribution was also encouraging.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "You appear to have overlooked Ablett's knock on in the lead up to the first try - just for some balance also Mulhern's rip in front of his own posts!! It wasnt all one way'"
And Hardaker punching a player in the face in front of the sticks. No penalty
Yet when Aiton gets pushed at Leeds a penalty is given.
Anyway what was it with your away kit. I thought HULL FC had turned up by mistake
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| Quote: Durham Giant "And Hardaker punching a player in the face in front of the sticks. No penalty
Yet when Aiton gets pushed at Leeds a penalty is given.
Anyway what was it with your away kit. I thought HULL FC had turned up by mistake'"
It's not the 'official' away kit, it's the special shirt for Magic weekend that we've worn once before against Warrington away. It's been a really lucky shirt so far
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Seems anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a biased? Only you could suggest the Giants were worse than the likes of Widnes or Wakefield!!
They showed in the second half what a talented side they can be'"
You need to start reading posts properly Sal, because your showing poor form.
In the first half Huddersfield were the poorest side we have played this year.
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| Quote: Gotcha "You need to start reading posts properly Sal, because your showing poor form.
In the first half Huddersfield were the poorest side we have played this year.'"
no chance. they were poor in attack all game yes, but worst team we have played? no way. hull 2nd half.
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| So how was McGuire?
Any more mouthing off to the ref?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "You appear to have overlooked Ablett's knock on in the lead up to the first try - just for some balance also Mulhern's rip in front of his own posts!! It wasnt all one way'"
I've not watched it back but from first viewing I thought the Huddersfield player knocked it out. I know Steve said he didn't but Stevo's speaks complete reactionary BS half the time
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| Quote: Vespid_Wire "So how was McGuire?
Any more mouthing off to the ref?'"
missing briars gob are we?
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| Quote: Vespid_Wire "So how was McGuire?
Any more mouthing off to the ref?'"
At least McGuire managed to avoid showering the officials with expletives. A step up from Brough, who was a very, very lucky boy to stay on the field after the spray he gave the touch judge late on in the game. Fortunate he picked on one of the younger ones who lacked the bottle to bring it to Silverwood's attention.
On the obstruction thing, last season the Huby one would have been given all day long. Everyone knew what the laws and interpretation were, you stop in the line you're going to get penalised. For some unknown reason the RFL decided that wasn't good enough, and went back to allowing referees to make their own mind up based on a set of subjective criteria whether an obstruction had occurred. As a result, we're back in chaos. Teams are being penalised where no defender is impeded - the Leeds one in the first half - while defenders are then clearly being impeded and no penalty given because the VR doesn't think they've made "enough" of an effort to get around the 17 stone roadblock in their way.
It's little wonder players and spectators get frustrated at the inconsistency shown both game to game and even during games.
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| In the end perhaps a fair result and given our injuries one I would have accepted before the match. Although it is disappointing to see an 22-8 lead whittled down it just shows how momentum is the key in the modern game.
IMO to suggest Huddersfield were poor in the first half disrespects both them and Leeds. They started well we played some good rugby and were well on top at half time. The second half swing in momentum came in part as a result of a string of penalties against Leeds combined with a much improved Brough which enthused the whole Huddersfield side. During this period I thought our defense was outstanding led by JP and Cuthbo although the latter made rather a meal of the obstruction he perhaps expected that Hardaker would not have been so easily swotted out of the way for the try.
I have been one of Sinfield's biggest fans throughout his career but all good things come to an end eventually as I have witnessed with the many other great players in almost 60 years of watching our great game. Given the small amount of possession we had in the second half even Sinfield at his very best would have struggle to turn the tide. Those that are suggesting he should have been in the side are ignoring the fact that his form for almost a year has been way down and that includes his leadership performances. This does not mean that Sinfield will not still play a useful part as the season rolls on. I am sure he will.
Keinhorst did ok and for this game Mac was right to continue with Watkins on the wing due to the danger of Brough's kicking game. JJB did remarkably well to return after injury with so much energy and Delaney was again in form until he had to go off. It is easy to be critical of creative players when things don't come off and McGuire's missed touch finder was one such occasion but it was very much the sort of thing Sinfield would have tried to gain better field position at a time when we needed to be out of our own half.
Mac has shown he will gradually introduce the youngsters and not overplay them but when ready he will back them which includes allowing them to make the mistakes they will learn from. It is somewhat ironic that some of those that were critical of Mac for not playing the youngsters more often are now at him for allowing the transition to progress.
On the positive side I thought the coach and players did well in the short turn around to improve on the performance of the Warrington game and now we get a longer time to recover energy and prepare for the Widnes game.
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