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| Quote: slimwire66 "metabolites stay longer'"
plus you never know what the junk is cut with.
I doubt he knowingly used it in advance of a test. Just got caught. He should have done a Rio and gone shopping instead
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| The big rumour at the moment is that Hock knew he would fail a test, told a certain employee before the Salford game, but the risk was taken and he got selected by the testers after the game.
That employee was sacked last night.
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "The big rumour at the moment is that Hock knew he would fail a test, told a certain employee before the Salford game, but the risk was taken and he got selected by the testers after the game.
That employee was sacked last night.'"
If true that would suggest some complicity on the part of the employer wouldn't it ?
An attitude of "we know you do it because you've told us so we'll try not to select you when you might fail a test" ???
If true then it would it be so surprising if other clubs had a simliar attitude too ?
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| Meanwhile in unrelated news Ryan Bailey and Matt Diskin failed fitness tests on Saturday morning causing Simon Worrall to be brought into the seventeen from outside the original nineteen.
That's a rarity these days.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "If true that would suggest some complicity on the part of the employer wouldn't it ?
An attitude of "we know you do it because you've told us so we'll try not to select you when you might fail a test" ???
If true then it would it be so surprising if other clubs had a simliar attitude too ?'"
If you had a key player on ££££ and he told you he would fail an upcoming test. As a club would to go with the moralistic response or look after a key asset from a clubs perspective??
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| Quote: LeedsPokerGuru "If you had a key player on ££££ and he told you he would fail an upcoming test. As a club would to go with the moralistic response or look after a key asset from a clubs perspective??'"
It depends if you're the sort of club chairman who signs up to the RFL's anti-doping rules and is quite happy to have his players tested regularly as long as they don't test the ones who are doped.
It also depends if you're the sort of club chairman who is quite happy to promote his players as community role models whilst all the while knowing that they have an illegal drug habit, if you're the sort of club chairman who thinks that that sort of thing is OK as long as you don't get caught then your point may stand.
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| Quote: tvoc "Meanwhile in unrelated news Ryan Bailey and Matt Diskin failed fitness tests on Saturday morning causing Simon Worrall to be brought into the seventeen from outside the original nineteen.
That's a rarity these days.'"
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| Quote: thebloodbath "More here:
interesting comment in that article
'Eyebrows were raised when Hock was omitted from the initial 17-strong England elite squad and “national registered testing pool”, who under Wada regulations must give notice of their whereabouts on a given hour each day.'
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| He's been daft and he's dropped unlucky.
Good luck to him in his rehabilitation and I hope he can return from it.
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| Quote: Ouzo "He's been daft and he's dropped unlucky.
Good luck to him in his rehabilitation and I hope he can return from it.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "If true that would suggest some complicity on the part of the employer wouldn't it ?
An attitude of "we know you do it because you've told us so we'll try not to select you when you might fail a test" ???
If true then it would it be so surprising if other clubs had a simliar attitude too ?'"
You see, that's the concern. If it's going on, it needs weeding out. The odd player will always misbehave and screw things up, but there seems to be a feeling that there is more to this problem than that. If it's a cultural problem, something needs to be done, even if that means losing some high profile players from the game.
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| Quote: mps "obviously this was the topic of conversation after work tonight,
when one of the lads told us of an ex team mate, that when previously informed he would have to provide a sample, the player smuggled a sample of his wife's urine into the test room, emptied it into his sample tube and returned it.
although he got a clear result the RFL were pleased to inform him he was 3 months pregnant.'"
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| Quote: mps "obviously this was the topic of conversation after work tonight,
when one of the lads told us of an ex team mate, that when previously informed he would have to provide a sample, the player smuggled a sample of his wife's urine into the test room, emptied it into his sample tube and returned it.
although he got a clear result the RFL were pleased to inform him he was 3 months pregnant.'" LMFAO
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| Quote: El Diablo "You see, that's the concern. If it's going on, it needs weeding out. The odd player will always misbehave and screw things up, but there seems to be a feeling that there is more to this problem than that. If it's a cultural problem, something needs to be done, even if that means losing some high profile players from the game.'"
how many players do you think do it/have done it at some point?? I would be interested to know how many of these random tests are done each year. I imagine the odds of doping any substance and gettign away with it would be pretty good.
Wasn't too long ago the Hudds player failed a dope test. Only real way to to weed it out is for RFL to make ALL clubs force regular tests on its players(queue employment can of worms). Even then would the clubs deal with results internally??
btw Read in todays metro that UK is coke capital of the world with more users than anywhere.
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| Why part of my original post was deleted I am unsure. I didn't say anything that could get anybody into trouble. Just suggested that certain coaches should look at their disciplinary measures.
When clubs are actively teaching their players how to clense/flush their systems to stop being detected, we have a problem.
The RFL should step in and force more testing at club level. Not only would this help erradicate the problem, it would also give the sport some great PR.
The problem is, they know how many players would be caught out, and unfortunately this would include some of the 'pin-up' and 'model proffesionals'. So maybe they should give 6 months notice to the clubs. Maybe state that from next season there will tests done on a weekly basis.
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