Hardly a hammering him by saying he let his teammates down. He also called him "one of most decent standup honest guys coming through the game"'and "cheap shots aren't what he's about".......but people ignore that part.

The difference is that Ferres wasn't a calculated act but careless at best. Singo's was a deliberate act. IMO

Spot on, it's because of the end result of the player on the receiving end in both instances that cloud people's judgement. Had Gildart been able to play on but Greg Bird stretched off then might change people's opinion.

Hang on Ferres has a duty of care just as Singleton did both equally as stupid & reckless as each other thats straight forward.
Both have incurred long bans which leave the Club short on numbers & both equally culpable for their actions.

First tackle up after a said to?
Ferres may not have intended to injure but he had a duty of care once he had Gildart in that position even if it was a split second just as Singleton had a split second to lower his forearm.

Ferres' actions were as calculated as Singletons. Neither of them may have foreseen the actual damage they were doing, but both had intent. You simply can't bend a player's neck that way without knowing its likely to cause extreme discomfort at best. To be supposedly ignorant of the potential risk is no excuse.

As an aside I can't recall a Leeds player getting a ban as long as 6 matches before two in one season.

Not really. Many, maybe most, posters had expressed their opinions before the extent of Gildart's injury was known (if indeed it is even now).

Unless I have overlooked it the nature or extent of gildarts injury has not been revealed.On sky last night it was mentioned it was a severe back injury.
Phil Clarkes injury as he mentioned was damage to c 4 disc this forced him to give up the game. If Gildart has damaged discs he may be out for longer than 3 months. Anyway good luck to the lad hope he recovers asap.

Since when was it allowed to smoke a fag during a game ! Brett Ferres appears to have been sin-binned for it in this pic.

Maybe it's an attempt to suppress his appetite?

That's actually a piece of Gildart's spine.

Nah, a fag's just a penalty. That's a spliff.

I thought Hardaker got a ban for using the former .

Confirmed pre-match last night on Sky Sports (they said it was four vertebrae), do you accept it now, or do you not believe them either?

Who confirmed it? Wigan or Sky Sports?