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Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: morpeth rhino "If it kicks off outside wembley that litte (unt will have a lot to answer for.'"


Well can't be bothered reading the rest after this post from a person who is probably still sat in his jim-jams with a can of special brew in his hand.... And i can bet that if it had "kicked off", a keyboard warrior like yourself would have been the first to run away to hide....

Thanks to all the leeds fans that were there for a cracking day. Glad that your players put in a performance for once this season.... Good luck next year...

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Well can't be bothered reading the rest after this post from a person who is probably still sat in his jim-jams with a can of special brew in his hand.... And i can bet that if it had "kicked off", a keyboard warrior like yourself would have been the first to run away to hide....

Thanks to all the leeds fans that were there for a cracking day. Glad that your players put in a performance for once this season.... Good luck next year...'"


While you, on the other hand are a full on chunky monkey macho man who'll bop nasty people right on their jolly nose.

Grow up.

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Quote: Fat Boy "While you, on the other hand are a full on chunky monkey macho man who'll bop nasty people right on their jolly nose.

Grow up.'"


Where did i say i would.....? Your esteemed fellow fan refered to someone in a very ungracious tone... And it was he who suggested that something might "kick off".... From his sofa somewhere in the Leeds conurbation....

Incidently i was there, and the Leeds fans i met and talked with were all quite charming.... Unlike the aforementioned oik...

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[b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches. [b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?. [b:1e1swnry]gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] They wear red and white and cry a lot in October.:6553.gif



What a shame it came down to this.

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[quote="Deano G":1n5mh4u0] We are Wigan. Nothing less than success is good enough.[/quote:1n5mh4u0] & [quote="Deano G":1n5mh4u0] The rest of the British RL is looking on with fear as the mighty Wigan club rises again [/quote:1n5mh4u0]:14097.gif



hhmm

not read all the pages on this thread , just the first 2 and a few questions pop up for me .......

the common theme is that he is a horrible human being .. how do you all know ? do you know what he does outside of the game ?


anybody who has actually played any sport at a decent level will know just how some people change when they cross the white line . ive played various sports with some of the nicest people , off the feild , you could ever possibly meet , some wouldnt say boo to a goose , get them on the pitch and they think absolutley nothing of trying to decapitiate the opponent . does this make them horrible human beings ???


get a grip , most , if not all would have tomkins in there team given the chance

the attitude on the pitch is what makes some players stand out at the highest level


yes the 'bird' was a stupid thing to do , but lets remember the stick he gets , the lad is still a youngster , petulant is probably the word . i just see some people over reacting to this situation .

the 'bad example' he has so called set ? really ??
late tackles , speaking out of turn to the ref .......... i could go on

it was a highly charged atmosphere , lots of emotion flying about and nobody was hurt

just take a deep breath

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "I'm not offended by either my own fans dislike of McGuire and Bailey or other fans dislike of Tomkins. Disliking opposition players is what we do and it's perfectly normal, but if people are prepared to boo a player every week, even when he's playing for England, and incite violence and injury upon him, then they really have no moral high ground to claim when that player responds. I don't agree with what Tomkins did, by the way, I merely pointed out the hypocrisy in the reaction to it from people trying to justify their own abuse of him. I haven't justified what he has done at all, but I'm sure that doesn't matter as you were probably just dying to use the phrase "kn0b-jockey" on a forum so you can tell your pals at school what a dangerous little boy you are.'"


As I pointed out, it isn't hypocrytical because the actions of each party do not have the same ramifications, you do understand that don't you? Oh, and, in any event, you weren't trying to highlight any hypocracy you were simply trying to justify the actions of the subject of your affection.

What your fans throw at McGuire and Bailey goes way beyond "dislike" and you know it. Now, your lack of an issue with that situation is hypocritical.

I'd love to know the basis of your assumption that the people booing Tomkins were Leeds fans. I was at the Exiles game and the only people I saw booing were Hull fans, although I don't doubt there were some Leeds fans behaving in that manner. The point is that fans can act irresponsibly to some extent and it does little or no damage to anyone.

Now jog on kn0b jockey (and yes I will admit to some immaturity over that phrase because, my ability to see faults is not one way).

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Quote: wiganstu "hhmm

not read all the pages on this thread , just the first 2 and a few questions pop up for me .......

the common theme is that he is a horrible human being .. how do you all know ? do you know what he does outside of the game ?


anybody who has actually played any sport at a decent level will know just how some people change when they cross the white line . ive played various sports with some of the nicest people , off the feild , you could ever possibly meet , some wouldnt say boo to a goose , get them on the pitch and they think absolutley nothing of trying to decapitiate the opponent . does this make them horrible human beings ???


get a grip , most , if not all would have tomkins in there team given the chance

the attitude on the pitch is what makes some players stand out at the highest level


yes the 'bird' was a stupid thing to do , but lets remember the stick he gets , the lad is still a youngster , petulant is probably the word . i just see some people over reacting to this situation .

the 'bad example' he has so called set ? really ??
late tackles , speaking out of turn to the ref .......... i could go on

it was a highly charged atmosphere , lots of emotion flying about and nobody was hurt

just take a deep breath'"


Absolutely agree with you, right up to the point where you try to make excuses for him. He is a professional sports person and what he did is unacceptable, although you are right, it makes him an idiot, not the devil in carnate.

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Quote: wiganstu "hhmm

not read all the pages on this thread , just the first 2 and a few questions pop up for me .......

the common theme is that he is a horrible human being .. how do you all know ? do you know what he does outside of the game ?


anybody who has actually played any sport at a decent level will know just how some people change when they cross the white line . ive played various sports with some of the nicest people , off the feild , you could ever possibly meet , some wouldnt say boo to a goose , get them on the pitch and they think absolutley nothing of trying to decapitiate the opponent . does this make them horrible human beings ???


get a grip , most , if not all would have tomkins in there team given the chance

the attitude on the pitch is what makes some players stand out at the highest level


yes the 'bird' was a stupid thing to do , but lets remember the stick he gets , the lad is still a youngster , petulant is probably the word . i just see some people over reacting to this situation .

the 'bad example' he has so called set ? really ??
late tackles , speaking out of turn to the ref .......... i could go on

it was a highly charged atmosphere , lots of emotion flying about and nobody was hurt

just take a deep breath'"


You're missing the point here - the last tackles, speaking out of turn to the ref etc. are part of the game and part of the game that we have all leant to accept. We may not like these things but we see them week in, week out and don't really show a blatant disrespect for the opposition support.

Rat Boy over-stepped the mark by some considerable distance by flicking the V's at the Leeds fans.

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dont condone it , never tried to make excuses , unless you consider the bits about emotion etc excuses ??

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Quote: Fat Boy "You're missing the point here - the last tackles, speaking out of turn to the ref etc. are part of the game and part of the game that we have all leant to accept. We may not like these things but we see them week in, week out and don't really show a blatant disrespect for the opposition support.

Rat Boy over-stepped the mark by some considerable distance by flicking the V's at the Leeds fans.'"


not missing the point at all , im just saying there is a massive over reaction to a childish act

the things we see week in week out you talk off , are they acceptable ?

lets be honest , most leeds fans at the game wouldnt even have seen the 2 fingers would they ??

yes he overstepped the mark i agree , but talk of bans from club and internationals is just stupid

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As I said on the other thread re this incident, it's the down side of a precocious young rugby league talent. What he does need is for his coach or an experienced head at Wigan to take him on one side, have a word, tell him to calm down and dont let the arrogant petulance overtake the obvious talent he has. What he did was stupid, but it was done in the emotion of the moment, but the fact that it was seen on national television apparently wont have done him any favours. Sam Tomkins is a talent but I hope the other side of his character is not going to spoil his bright future in the game.

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Quote: wiganstu "not missing the point at all , im just saying there is a massive over reaction to a childish act

the things we see week in week out you talk off , are they acceptable ?

lets be honest , most leeds fans at the game wouldnt even have seen the 2 fingers would they ??

yes he overstepped the mark i agree , but talk of bans from club and internationals is just stupid'"


You're comparing two things that shouldn't be compared - what happens in a game when players push the boundaries shouldn't be compared to a player blatantly disrespecting the opposition supporters.

The kind of behaviour that Rat Boy showed was not done in an attempt to sway the ref or get the upper hand during the game and therefore should be dealt with outside the normal disciplinary procedure.

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it can only be dealt with by the DC if there are guidlines / rules / laws allready in place

as i said , it was a stupid and petulant thing to do , nothing any fan wants to see any player doing

but as i said , there is a MASSIVE over reaction

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Quote: wiganstu "it can only be dealt with by the DC if there are guidlines / rules / laws allready in place

as i said , it was a stupid and petulant thing to do , nothing any fan wants to see any player doing

but as i said , there is a MASSIVE over reaction'"


I don't think this thread would be half as long as it is, if certain kn0b jockies icon_wink.gif didn't come on here trying to justify his actions.

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[quote="Deano G":1n5mh4u0] We are Wigan. Nothing less than success is good enough.[/quote:1n5mh4u0] & [quote="Deano G":1n5mh4u0] The rest of the British RL is looking on with fear as the mighty Wigan club rises again [/quote:1n5mh4u0]:14097.gif



or people who dont read oppo fans posts properly?

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