You would lose.

Shocking defence by ward in the build to be makinson's first try.

Swatted away like a rag doll...........by paul f*cking wellens.

Really nt sen anything to suggest ward is anything other than a championship player good junior but not up to super league standard. See Marcus vassilakopuolous.
Can we have Sutcliffe back from Bradford ASAP.

One player who got a good rep from academy for another who got a good rep from academy.

And you have those who consistently wanted first teamers replaced by 13 year olds.

Showed last week that he's not a centre and that was against the worst team seen in SL since Leigh several years ago and what does our coach do....play him there again.

Crazy to select a winger on the bench in the first place but then compound the first error by then not even using him to either play centre or go FB and move Zak to halves with Sir Kevin going 9 and burrow to 7 or burrow stay 9 and sub McGuire

Dumb bench and even dumber tactics.

As someone said on the other thread, all that possession and repeat sets and we never looked like scoring.

Forward drives all night and constantly turning it back inside the majority of the time probably hoping to tire Saints out but guess what, it didn't and we had no plan B

Saints 'A' team were magnificent tonight.

To write Ward off as a championship player is a massive over reaction. He is a young lad, half dozen games back from almost a season out injured, playing out of position.
He would admit he is way off his best yet, but give him a chance.

Agreed. I thought he went well tonight. Also think he would have done a much better Job than JJB and Delaney, had he played there.

Absolute bollox and you know it ,it was always about rotating players clearly carrying injuries or way off form.
Also Ward wasn't the reason we lost tonight either.

I thought he had a shocking game against London. I still don't know what his best position is.

I think Ward will be a good SL player but at this moment he is being exposed being asked to play in an unfamiliar position while nursing his shoulder - which he clearly struggled with V London at times. If only Leeds had another quality back.

18/19 year olds looked great against other 18/19 year olds ......just some of us didn't get carried away and wanted the first team dropped for them.......some on here did.

How does Ward get pillared for that Makinson try? Abletts effort was really weak.

What was the fitness and form of those "1st team players"?
When the youngsters got picked because of a mounting injury list was it their fault entirely if we lost games?

Steve Ward has been unlucky with injuries. Aslong as he can avoid injuries he will be a very good Super League player. He could do with beefing up a touch though and he is not a centre.

Very harsh on Ward. After just coming back from a big injury, which came after a similar injury to the other shoulder he's being played out of position. He'll probably end up as one of McDermott's scape goats. It's hard to recall our back line being given the space to play last night.

I agree that once again we've seen signs that McDermott isn't good enough for this team. A good coach will get the best out of his players (Murray, Smith, even Powell). I personally don't think we've seen this bar Hardaker.

There's been more times wgere I've been bored watching us under McDermott than anything other coach (not saying I was bored as much as frustrated last night)