I think there's only one answer for it, the players need to burn some more sentimental crap in JJBs bin and have some more forced talks about identity and culture...

I really really hope I don't have too

Utter downer. I thought with the new, more basic style of play it would be much harder for us to be as headless as last season, but I was wrong. Our spine was really poor. They are the guys that need to take control when its going pear shaped and yet none of them did. Frawley just again looks a really poor player, but Ackers was poor and so were Smith and Croft. Add to that an edge defence that seemingly panics at the first sign of pressure, and it's all over.

There's a reason why Handley, who was a centre in his youth, has never lasted more than a game there - for all his talk and training there he shows no composure at all when defending in that position. Not just his fault - the lack of communication between second row, wing and centre was awful.

If available I think we have to bring in Clark-Wood and shove Handley back on the wing. Tough on Lumb but that edge will get taken apart every week. Hopefully either O'Connor or Sinfield are fit to take over at hooker. We need much more from there. I'd also put Edgell to full back and Connor to 7. Connor can't do worse there and his lack of speed will be less exposed. Jenkins must come in, maybe for second row, but I also find watching Cam Smith really painful in games like this. He's no captain and even after another off season with a changed style he finds a way to cripple attacking moves. I do not care how many second or third man in tackles he makes, before anyone lobs out the rather pointless stats.

It makes no sense to have a back sat on the bench all game. Why choose to handicap yourself?

BA does have form for this I think.

You thought your lads looked fit?!

I thought the forwards were blowing very hard after about 20 minutes.

With us having to run with 2 small guys on the bench I thought your fitness would see you dominate in the second half so seeing your forwards walk to the restart when the clock was ticking down really surprised me.

Connor's kick return is frustrating. Just jogging/skipping. Not why we lost but speed up and you might break a tackle.
Pack ran it in harder in 2nd half. If they'd done that in 1st half maybe we would have won. Not a total disaster but very disappointing

The only thing positive about today is the fact rthat I have e better seat than last season.

Hall was ok, the rest poor and Frawley should never play again for us, he is absoloute garbage, closely followed by Ackers

No they looked knackered which as I say is surprising seeing as that’s what theyve focused on all off season

I think we’re all very fatigued from seeing too much of what we saw today over the last few years… patience is wearing thin

We still need to fix the front row, until we do that, we will not solve the main problem we have, one that affects our entire game plan. The forwards need to run much harder, tackle much harder and get us into position to give the halves and backs some space to play in. We lost because the pack got dominated. Again.

Im not sure it was the front row why we lost that game. Their trys and field position came from outstripping us on the edges, and the reason we didn’t capitalise on the one man advantage was our attacking shape, we had the field position