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The fact is that after every break, every chance to 'reset' or work on things - which we are told by Smith is happening - we come back worse. Three of our worst performances have come off two week breaks - Hudds, Sts and now Hull. To go back to the very first post on this thread, what the heck are they doing with all this time off??

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"Leeds is the greatest club in Rugby League" Alex Murphy 2011:



Just be glad we didn’t appoint Tony Smith as Director Of Rugby. As a gurning apologist for his nephew he showed what a dangerous thing nepotism can be in sport. Good job nobody takes what he says seriously, especially Brian Carney.

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Quote: christopher "There’s quite a lot of talent and skill in the squad it’s just not manifesting itself!

They’re nowhere near as bad as that show they put out today'"


We’re the third worst team in the league (don’t quote table, Leigh and hudds better)

The talent of the players we have is better, but what Smith is getting out of them is pure sh’ite.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "We’re the third worst team in the league (don’t quote table, Leigh and hudds better)

The talent of the players we have is better, but what Smith is getting out of them is pure sh’ite.'"

Worse than cas?

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Worse than cas?'"


I forgot about Cas.

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Quote: Trebor1 "Jim we just look poorly coached. Smith isn’t getting a tune from any players. That squad isn’t brilliant, a long way from it but it’s much better than what we’re seeing.'"

It looks to me like both. We sign other teams’ reserve players or Champ players and expect our magical environment to make world beaters out of them. When has this actually worked?

I’m balled off with seeing our smallest players taking the brutal carries out of D and then making it to our own 40 if we’re lucky.

I’ve made my views on the error rate clear before and that is more a quality of player issue. But then RS and GH have signed those players.

We started the game with one prop (Mik). Then we don’t use our subs properly again ehen we are clearly struggling physically. Either play Johnson or pick another player.

We look clueless in attack and have all year. I noticed us try to play another set move on the left hand side in good ball and it fell apart within three passes as usual.

Some of the goal line D was embarrassing, where their players got the ball down (or nearly did) about three times with three or four Leeds players in the tackle.

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Sounds like Wilkin should be coach!

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Only watched 20 minutes as had other plans.
But in that 20 minutes we looked like a bottom 4 team playing without any organisation, forwards who were powder puff and backs who looked like they hadn`t a clue.
Smith who I saw being interviewed at the start of the game looked nervous and needed a rocket up his arris.
And a captain who has gone backwards from last season along with a number of others.

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I would give Cam Smith much less game time and play O’Connor at 13. Our attack looks more crisp as well with Corey at 9… though he was only on for 5 mins.

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I see oconnor as a 13. Great line speed and tough. he certainly isn't a hooker imo

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Quote: tad rhino "I see oconnor as a 13. Great line speed and tough. he certainly isn't a hooker imo'"

He doesn’t have the size for 13 or quite the head or skill for 9. He is willing and a good squad option but yet another player without a clear position IMO.

His line speed and positivity against Hull was great - there was a rumour they were signing him for next year as starting 9.

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Quote: KaeruJim "He doesn’t have the size for 13 or quite the head or skill for 9. He is willing and a good squad option but yet another player without a clear position IMO.

His line speed and positivity against Hull was great - there was a rumour they were signing him for next year as starting 9.'"

Agree. Which sadly sums up our current predicament. Can see why Tad would suggest it though. Maybe if we had some real heavyweights in the pack.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Agree. Which sadly sums up our current predicament. Can see why Tad would suggest it though. Maybe if we had some real heavyweights in the pack.'"

Yeah well JOC came through at 13 and then was pushed up to 9 wasn’t he?

Said it before but aside from Ackers/Johnson/JOC at hooker, the smallest player I want to see in the pack would be McDonnell. And the big ones need to be more skilful.

Again, wouldn’t be surprised if JOC was signed elsewhere next year and we ended up keeping Johnson as understudy to Ackers. Another one for Blease to sort out.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Yeah well JOC came through at 13 and then was pushed up to 9 wasn’t he?

Said it before but aside from Ackers/Johnson/JOC at hooker, the smallest player I want to see in the pack would be McDonnell. And the big ones need to be more skilful.

Again, wouldn’t be surprised if JOC was signed elsewhere next year and we ended up keeping Johnson as understudy to Ackers. Another one for Blease to sort out.'"


I don’t think Jarrod will be leaving.

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Various players not doing strength conditioning and coach not too bothered apparently.

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