Agar was there before Carr came in. So the degree of probability is high. What it does say though as I repeat, is there is unanswered questions there, and that need answering this year.

That I agree with, and it's why I think the beginning part of this season will be really interesting, either in a good way or a bad way, rightly or wrongly this new team/coaching setup is going to get judged fairy early on I feel, a few losses early in the season and I guarantee there will be a 'for the live of God Agar out' thread.

FWIW I think we'll have a steady first half of the season with around a 50/50 win lose rate which should see us not battling for relegation again, and to be honest after the last few years, I'll be happy with that.

Don't see the fuss here. It's hardly like a loan signing is going to make or break our season. To be honest, at this point in the year I'm more worried about how well Leeming will fit in than whether or not Evans will get a game.

For me, the main priorities are the spine, the pack, and the backline, in that order. This is more or less reflected in club's recruitment in the off-season.

If these changes don't translate to improvements on the field then it might be time to revisit the coaching set-up, depending on the circumstances. But it is surely a case of sitting back, and waiting to see what is served up, at least for the majority of us without direct insights into the way the club is being run behind the scenes.

For the live of god.

Classic.

Well said

I think there needs to be a level of realism here.

Everyone agrees that the club has gone backwards in the last few years, regardless of the GF win.

Sinny has been in place in a role he had never held before for about 18 months. Agar in as head coach for about 6 months.

You don't turn a club around in that time.

They went for a new approach in Furner, it didn't work and they shipped him out. They have been steadily shipping players out but you can't just sack them, it takes time.

New, better players are being signed up, youth is coming through. Yes Evans is a stopgap but one or two stop gaps is fine, you just dont want a team of them.

Just chill out a bit. Support your team. People are working really hard for sure.

Agree with all that

Fantastic post, very well said

Exactly Fallon well said

I don't know either Marty but given RL is the national sport of PNG and Martin has just captained them to the greatest win in their history , I Reckon he has a better chance than we do.

Given that our next signing depends on it though, I've got little doubt that Lenaghan would have had it sorted a long time ago had it being happening at Wigan.

I have no doubt Sinfield only wants the very best for the club but the fact we could only sign Prior on the exit of Merrin and as Gotcha mentioned the commitment to a coaching model has not been fulfilled, despite being reiterated when Furner left, means the reality is not fully aligned to the PR and spin.

Sinfield / the club have said these things publicly and not fulfilled them. As a result they leave themselves open to question and criticism.

In Kev's defence, it’s likely that he’s had a fair bit of extra work on with Rob’s recent diagnosis.

I’m massively proud of how the club have responded to the news, it’s a real measure of what’s important.

His dad was born in PNG, he can get a PNG passport, it’s nothing to do with representing them in RL, that’s not how qualifying for passports works.

Questionable but how do you loan a player for the season, but then loan him back to his parent club for a month?

Who cares

And that’s how. Signed a permanent deal at Leeds Rhinos and has been loaned back to Bradford.