You seriously think Wigan showed the same intensity yesterday as they did in GF - seriously!!

Even by your own admission Leeds have only put in two good halves of rugby this year in SL - so how is that they keep winning games? It must have something to do with the quality of the opposition - even if you believe Leeds are that much better than the rest that can play well below their best and still win you have to question the quality of the other teams. You cannot have it both ways.

Leeds have played 3 of the likely top 8 in recent weeks they have drawn 1 and lost 2 comprehensively. They have 3/4 more to play before the end of regular season so they need to get their game head on.

What I said was Leeds were never the same team after the Magic mauling by Wigan - they struggled to beat Leigh another side that physically roughed them up. You put it all down to the CC that is your prerogative - we don't agree.

Yes its a hypothetical view point it isn't going to happen, Huddersfield are a different team to Leeds Wigan would not play an identical way as they did against Leeds - if I could type slower for you I would.

The spine of the team is year older and the end of the season will be much tougher they will have to play the top sides week in week out for 7 weeks. The play offs don't start in 7 weeks the play offs start in 4 months.

Of course it's hypothetical. That was never in doubt. Why did you pretend it ever was? Was it to try and cover up your ridiculous comparison of 2 clubs results against different teams?

The week of the Hudds Cup game

"Challenge cup holders Leeds Rhinos will stick with a winning routine for their “biggest game of the season so far”, chief executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed.

“Last year the team went into camp before every Cup game, that worked and they will be doing the same this season,” Hetherington said ahead of Saturday’s Ladbrokes-sponsored sixth round tie at home to Huddersfield Giants."

The week of the Magic weekend game

"We've not really thought about it up to now," Ablett said.

"We had a big week with the cup and then we needed to back up last Friday, so the Magic Weekend hasn't really been a focus or something we've talked about."


HASN'T really been a FOCUS

And yet Printer, and this is fact, they went into camp before the Wigan game.

The point was Loiner 81 asked if Huddersfield were an improving side - it was a snide comment following the CC defeat -that Leeds should fear - looking at their recent results I would suggest Huddersfield are improving and they are a side Leeds have struggled to beat in SL in recent years. I was merely pointing out the recent form of both teams.

You then jumped on the bandwagon - and then argued it wasn't hypothetical and now you are suggesting it was - which is it?

What on earth are you on about? I've never argued that my prediction of the results of a hypothetical scenario (Leeds playing Hudds instead of Wigan etc) wasn't hypothetical.
Your prediction (that Leeds will fall down the league table) isn't in any way hypothetical. That's a prediction based on a real scenario in a real context.

You then decided to jump in and pretend I was stating fact, for some strange reason. Presumably in an attempt to divert attention away from your ridiculous nonsense of comparing 2 teams based on results vs different clubs.

It wasn't snide and was about their recent performances, including the CC. Beating Salford doesn't make them a good side.

Recent form, ie this year with this year's squads is: played 3 with 2 wins to Leeds and a draw.
They were terrible today for the most part and were extremely lucky to get a point against the worst travelling side in SL.

Check their fixture list, they'll be lucky to make the top 8 playing like they did today.

I doubt this. But even if it is true, why the f00k weren't we focused on it, given it was a golden opportunity to put six points between Wigan and ourselves?

JP said in his post match interview that the problem was Leeds did not keep to the game plan which was evident in McDermott's obvious frustration. The original Roy Francis would have read that though!

It was quite obvious his game plan was the same as it was against Hull KR, and it simply would not have worked anyway against that Wigan side. I said the exact thing through the week before the game, so no hindsight, when people were writing off Wigan. We wouldn't have beat the Wigan of the week before against Catalans, because we seem unwilling to play the same way that Catalans played, and that was what was needed to beat that Wigan style defence.

if the other arent as predictable as your plan suggested you need to be flexible and have a plan b. McDermott is very good at coming up with a plan that often works but when it doesnt he doesnt appear to be able to work an alternative

You know better than JP then? He clearly said that we lost because we did not keep to the game plan. If the players do not keep to the coaches game plan then it is the players that should take the responsibility. JP knows that and was honest enough to admit it and further said we have a good coach.

See my reply to Gotcha. But really Sal you should know that the big attraction of sport is that it is unpredictable. Players have good days and bad days and if our players have some of those bad days you cannot keep blaming the coach every time. No team will put in perfect performances and certainly not every week as there are far too many imponderables. We are playing an attractive style of rugby that will not always come off - enjoy it.