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| Zak does come across as the stereotypical big daft lad,if the rumours of leaving are true unless he leaves for a top 5 club he's taking a backward step.
Not saying it's discipline or drink related as I dont know but as an aside why do people throw their careers down the toilet for the sake of a p*ss up?
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| Quote: Gotcha "I think the Leeds response to all this has been an absolute disgrace to be honest.
The rumours circulated on Sunday, and a confirmed withdrawal on Monday afternoon. It is now Wednesday, and the only time the Leeds club have commented has been in response to interviews, with mixed views. The club have left the kid out to dry throughout all these rumours.
Compare and contrast to that g0be at Salford, who rightly or wrongly, was very quick in coming out in support of their player.
If you were Hardaker or another player to be honest, you would seriously question the support of the club with this regards. They have no need to give details, they should just issue a statement that supports the kid and clear up idle gossip, and leave it at that. The only statement on the club website has been the England one.'"
Did you think maybe what you have suggested Leeds should have done has happened in house? Leeds perhaps have poker faced the situation. Zak asked for privacy. Leeds haven't added fuel to the fire unlike Salford who made an embarrassing situation worse by defending the undefendable.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I think the Leeds response to all this has been an absolute disgrace to be honest.
The rumours circulated on Sunday, and a confirmed withdrawal on Monday afternoon. It is now Wednesday, and the only time the Leeds club have commented has been in response to interviews, with mixed views. The club have left the kid out to dry throughout all these rumours.
Compare and contrast to that g0be at Salford, who rightly or wrongly, was very quick in coming out in support of their player.
If you were Hardaker or another player to be honest, you would seriously question the support of the club with this regards. They have no need to give details, they should just issue a statement that supports the kid and clear up idle gossip, and leave it at that. The only statement on the club website has been the England one.'"
I imagine he has been given support in house. Issuing a statement to the press is hardly great support. No one really knows what these personal issues are, maybe the club are helping him through these issues without the need for public statements. Also this appears different to the hock issue, who was himself very vocal, whereas hardaker has asked for privacy so maybe the club are just respecting his wishes
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not really they are terribly unstable because of there height.
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| Quote: dubairl "josh charnley has just had a bumper pay rise and got a range rover
Hopefully not a real one? Just a chavy range rover sport
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| In straight-batting this in public Leeds have played it well IMO.
If they had said that they knew all about it and were working with the player, then they would have just faced further pressure to give more details which they couldn't do without disregarding the player's wish for privacy.
Much easier to just say that they don't know anything, at least until after Hardaker himself makes his statement tomorrow.
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| Quote: Gotcha "If you were Hardaker or another player to be honest, you would seriously question the support of the club with this regards. They have no need to give details, they should just issue a statement that supports the kid and clear up idle gossip, and leave it at that. The only statement on the club website has been the England one.'"
And what if Hardaker has asked the club to respect his privacy and not issue a statement at all about him?
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| Quote: dubairl "not really they are terribly unstable because of there height.'"
Nonsense.
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| I think the Club could easily have said that they are working to help the player through whatever issues there are with him without dis-respecting his own privacy wishes which England did.
I dont think we need any fine details just the asurances that the player will be supported and get the required help to hopefully get through this asap and back on the field doing what he does best.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "In straight-batting this in public Leeds have played it well IMO.
If they had said that they knew all about it and were working with the player, then they would have just faced further pressure to give more details which they couldn't do without disregarding the player's wish for privacy.
Much easier to just say that they don't know anything, at least until after Hardaker himself makes his statement tomorrow.'"
People just can't wait to find out. The twitter generation goes into withdrawal if they don't know everything immediately.
I haven't a clue what his personal issues are, I guess that's why they are personal?
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| Quote: rhinoms "I think the Club could easily have said that they are working to help the player through whatever issues there are with him without dis-respecting his own privacy wishes which England did.
I dont think we need any fine details just the asurances that the player will be supported and get the required help to hopefully get through this asap and back on the field doing what he does best.'"
The club could have said that if that's what they intend to actually do. But what if they don't intend to do that? What if they just haven't made a decision. Would look pretty bad if they offered full support etc. as you suggest and then he is shown the door.
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| Quote: DHM "The club could have said that if that's what they intend to actually do. But what if they don't intend to do that? What if they just haven't made a decision. Would look pretty bad if they offered full support etc. as you suggest and then he is shown the door.'"
I understand what you are saying but it can be made clear.
Imo mate they are 2 seperate issues they can publicly/privately offer any amount of counselling ,help etc etc without giving any commitment to his future as a Leeds player.
His current "issues" if are mental/bad should take priority over any talk of playing his playing future can be discussed/decided at a later date without hindering any support he needs now.
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| Quote: rhinoms "I understand what you are saying but it can be made clear.
Imo mate they are 2 seperate issues they can publicly/privately offer any amount of counselling ,help etc etc without giving any commitment to his future as a Leeds player.
His current "issues" if are mental/bad should take priority over any talk of playing his playing future can be discussed/decided at a later date without hindering any support he needs now.'"
But why are the club expected to make that statement before they have decided what they are going to do? More to the point, why can't you wait? It seems to be getting a lot of people hot under the collar when it actually doesn't affect anyone other than the player and his employers.
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| I can wait i was posting an opinion about the situation i arent screaming for updates or a full minute by minute break-down the Kids health/well being is the priority.
As for getting hot under the collar fans will always show an interest/concern when it effects their players will they not?
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| Quote: DHM "But why are the club expected to make that statement before they have decided what they are going to do? More to the point, why can't you wait? It seems to be getting a lot of people hot under the collar when it actually doesn't affect anyone other than the player and his employers.'"
We matter diddly squat. That isn't the point. We don't need to know the details.
But what the club shouldn't be doing is leaving the kid out to dry on his own. They must be aware of all the malicious rumours. Give something that puts a stop to those, and protects the kid. Then deal with whatever it is privately.
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