Well said Jim. All of those things and totally counter productive. Why would anyone come to play for or coach a club with a toxic mob ready to hurl abuse at them.

Another performance was totally unacceptable for a "professional" side. Once again no structure, lack of gameplay and poor defence.


Personally don't mind chanting /grumbles etc against the team. Any level of violence shouldn't be tolerated. Didn't go to the ge so don't know the extent of it but fans have the right to be ed off at current set up

Going to be controversial as well - watching from home, I actually liked a few of Frawley's contributions in the first half. Frawley is getting tons of stick for some of the errors, but Croft is hardly taking control regularly enough either.

I'm a bit more worried about Miller who is really struggling in decision making. If only Cameron Smith had the same pace and agility - with his footballing brain it would make one hell of a player.

As Smith pointed out, defence was actually pretty decent, and Hull have some monster forwards that our pack managed to handle without it feeling that the result was ever in doubt. The problem was the failure of the attack to click again, and to convert scoring opportunities. It didn't help that Miller was the only first choice outside back on the field after Momirovski left the field, which was a shame as the Momster was playing pretty well in his combination with Lumb.

Searching for more positives, how about this: however bad our makeshift backline may have been, I wouldn't swap any of them for Sutcliffe and Tindall - completely anonymous. Has Tindall scored any tries yet in his Hull career?

Oh yes, and we won. And despite the doom and gloom, we're only 4 points off the league leaders, with a game against London to come. That's not latter day Furner or Agar territory yet. Things may well get worse but they could get better as well...

smiths brain? he killed virtually every move. Time and again a simple pass would have seen us have the numbers but he ran it and took the tackle

Can you get those optimism tablets on the NHS . The game against London could provide some useful game time for a couple of younger lads, and because it’s a bye we automatically get the 2 points. Thankfully, because of the ridiculous fixture system we also get another bye against them at Headingley in one of our “extra games” later on this season as well as another “extra game” against Hull in early July. The RFL must feel guilty for all the unnecessary punishment they’ve doled out to us in recent seasons. I hope you haven’t been listening to too many of JJB’s obscure biblical references or motivational sound bites, that may be the reason for your unduly optimistic outlook. Unless Matt Frawley is suddenly deported for a breach of visa regulations I don’t see anything improving anytime soon.

So as long as you are not disturbed it OK - all fans must behave in a way you deem appropriate - your hard earned is more valuable than anyone else's!!

So Miller can't reach the 10 metre with a drop out but everyone must remain silent in case his family is present - wow!!

How many times does he get caught ball in hand - its embarrassing. It is almost as if the opponents are thinking much quicker than he is.

There is a very easy fix - play to a standard that you are capable. There isn't one Leeds player who is playing anywhere near their capabilities.

Very easy fix, just play better, wonder why the players hadnt thought of that

If you want to debate at least make a coherent argument.

If you think it’s acceptable to hurl abuse at our own players and coach, then we’re not really on the same side are we?

See how far that aggressive bullying approach gets you in relationships and life. I’ll wait.

Fans are entitled to voice their discontent.

Aggressive bullying, do me a favour.

I don't know if it's aggressive bullying but anyone who joined in is giving a pretty clear indication that they're a moron with limited social skills. Who would want to hang out or work with people like that?

An under strength Rhinos team beat a struggling Hull. Better than losing the game. Leeds did just enough. It was lack of Hull attacking prowess and good defending that played the largest part of the victory.
It may just be my RL ignorance but I don’t get why Leeds cannot improve their kicking - it is surely harder to kick the ball exactly into the hands of an opponent than direct to an open area. So, why do Leeds keep kicking the ball to an opponent - often with little/no kick chase ?

I never said that - what I suggested was there needs to be an outlet whereby substandard performances are recognised and fans have a platform to express opinions both positive and negative. Must of us learn more from constructive criticism than we ever do from a pat on the back. Of course you being a perfect individual have never called out a referee or an opposition player - be careful your glass house might just get pelted!!

That is a very interesting comment - why is it that people behave so differently when the attend or discuss sport than they ever would outside of sport. We see adults both male and female behave in an appalling manner in sports grounds - just flick through tick tok!!