Meh, I wasn't having a go, it's all a matter of opinion, wich is fine. I personally still feel like a spectator, which is fine as far as it goes.

I think actually the trouble is that Wembley doesn't feel like a big adventure these days. I got the train past it every other day on my way to London for work in the last year, it's an hour and a half on a direct train to the stadium station from my nearest railway station, so there's no temptation to stay down there.

So perhaps, actually, on reflection that's more of a reason. When we used to go to Cardiff for weekends for the cup and Millennium Magic, it did feel more like activity. Wembley last year felt more like sitting on a train, watching the match, sitting on a train.

Do you know, I think that's the most one of your posts has ever made me think.

Lets be honest,none of us will be going down expecting to win, but that doesnt mean that we cant win. Even if we do get stuffed, a la last year, tre is always the train home to drown sorrows after. But if we win, wow, itl be amazing given our underdog status.

Anyone in the Green Man pub before/ on the 5am train from Leeds?

boy your hardcore ! i thought i was keen going down on the 7am train and then going to the moon on the hill in harrow on the hill for a few beers just to calm the nerves of course

Will defo be in the Green Man - one of the best places to get a few pre-match beers in. Actually stayed there a couple of years ago.

5am thats hardcore Bro.

Last season we left Warrington on the train at 7:30 and was in Euston for 9.
Good time to get to London becuase you can do loads in the morning.
We went to the National Gallery which was really good to see.

Enjoy your day

I think over the next few days and in the week leading up to the game more people will start to get the feel for it and the allocation will go.

I've never actually drove to Wembley before but I'm having to this year, I was wondering what time I should set off? I thought maybe 8.30, what you guys think?

wasnt that a chant reserved for wigan themselves in '04, '05, '06, '07, '08 & '09?

Tony smith was magic, then Bluey went back to back
But now were winning nothing, cos our coach and squad are crap

There might be a few more Wigan fans than Leeds fans, but all the neutrals (including me and my mates) will be supporting you.

Come on Leeds, wipe that smug smile off the humbles faces!

Tony Smith was magic, he wore a magic hat.
And when he left the Rhinos, he said "Here Brian, have that!"

Theeeeeeeeeeen, Brian McClennan was magic, cos he had Tony's hat.
And when he saw the back-to-back he said I'm having that.

Theeeeeeeeeeen, Tony moved to Warrin'ton, and took his hat back too.
We're left with Brian McDermott, who doesn't have a clue.

Superb that one matey!

Brilliant.