I agree with a lot you say Juan but if you want to correct people then please be correct yourself (©glasshouses/stones, Matthew 7:5 according to Wikipedia, happy to be corrected)

Lethargy is not a word I associate with JJB (averaging almost 40 tackles per match 5th highest in the league), Delaney or Ablett who have played in 12 of the 13 SL games this season

Galloway was an important solid player for us in the middle defence until he was injured and we have certainly missed his size this year and we lack a replacement of his quality. When you add the loss of Garbutt (missed 10 SL games), Peteru (missed 10 SL matches), Cuthbertson (missed 7 SL games) and with Ward (missed 5 SL games) and Ferres (missed 6 Sl matches) plus long term injuries to Keinhorst and Sutcliffe this is not the same as coping without one prop for the odd game.

The extra workload this put on JJB, Delaney and Ablett must not be underestimated and must be a "major factor" if they are now showing signs of needing a rest. The replacements that had to be used were in the main youngsters who could only really be expected to do limited minutes.

So we should be praising our aged stars who have stood up to the plate and not sniping about their age.

Jjb Delaney & Ablett have been repeatedly "run into the ground" irrespective of injuries to others or not.
As for "sniping" what a load of sentimental BS their workload & minutes were always going to catch up with them that's physical fact not sniping.
The fact they're all starting to struggle physically & look to be coming to the end at the same time is pure mis-management.
As for missing Galloway we improved without him as results & performances proved.

Not for the first time we have different opinions with regard to rugby matters perhaps best left at that

So in other my views have been challenged so I am taking my bat and ball home

Juan - I can agree to an extent, but as a group our older forwards are a weakness. You could make a case for any one of Ablett, Delaney and JJB being in a top 4 side individually, but collectively not a chance. Add to that group Ferres and Walters both being poor, and it suggests problems even if all the props are fit.

Ablett, Delaney and Ferres will all be 33/34 next year, as will Cuthbertson, and JJB will be 38. All of those players are out of contract at the end of this year according to Frosties' list. Genuine question for eerybody - which of those should be recontracted, and which players will be?

On a plus note, and because I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, congratulations to Ryan Hall who has overtaken Drew Turnbull to become the fifth highest tryscorer in the club's history.

Arguing?
As for only being happy when "unfairly" criticising the Players Coach & Club you're missing the points being made both individually & collectively.
Striving for us to improve both short term & long term especially whilst wanting us to stick with proven methods used previously isn't negative.
We disagree on many things but from my own pov it's not arguing & i never will see it as such.

Surely JJB is calling time isn't he? Delaney will likely want to continue but i wouldn't be retaining him unless he is happy to take a lower wage. Ferres has been a massive disappointment for us and unless he stays fit and plays to his pre Leeds form for the next few months he will be gone. Cuthbertson and Ablett i would be happy enough to see get another year.

After Friday I would say none of them should be contracted for next season. However, based on everything else Cuthbertson would be the first I would look to resign of them, and then possibly another year for Ablett purely because of the various roles he can play. Definitely not Delaney and JJB though, that is poor management to do that. Ferres is just an utter waste of space.

all those mentioned who are coming up to the ages mentioned 33-34 and 38 and OOC would it be wise to let them go all at once ? would all the younger players step up to the plate to take their places ? GH will obviously be busy recruiting ,but I hope he has it sorted now just not announcing things just yet

Powell did it when he took over & aslong as we get the balance right by adding quality signings as well there's no reason it wont work.

he did! its going to be interesting going forward

I don't think we will release all 5 at once, it's not been the Leeds way over the last 15 years and we are talking about 2 leeds greats in JJB and Ablett and 2 superb overseas servants in Delaney and Cuthbertson.

Highly unlikely Ferres stays, he will be on big money and has not lived up to the billing. I expect the likeliest outcome is JJB retires, Ferres is released and two of the other 3 extend for a year.