Yeah sportsmen should be locked in a dungeon for the next few days after a loss. Suppose we shouldn't feed them either and hit them with whips.

Don't be childish.

Nah they should be running up and down hills for hours each day, like what they did in't gud old days.

why are we the only club not to have an assistant coach in SL ?

No must be more severe. Take their kids off them until they put in a performance deemed suitable by those whose money is "hard-earned". I hope Jamie Peacock wasn't at the races today because that lazy bugger doesn't know a thing about earning his wage with hard effort.

As long as they didn't ask handley to hold the kitty. 'oops sorry lads I think I've dropped it'

Indeed.
Sky is on mute now fed up of listening to stevo. 3 highlights for me George Williams for MOS, this game has the same intensity as the SOO and creaming his pants in general over Ben flower.
Wonder what perls he will come up with in "the second stanza"

You missed it, he was over the moon when they utlilised the second phase and dummy runner.

Well Stevo had much more time to talk in the last 20 minutes because Phil Clarke must've had to leave early because I don't recall hearing him in that last quarter. I wonder why.

To be fair to Clarke I thought he was pretty impartial in that game. Sadly the same couldn't be said for Terry "everything sounds amazing" O'Connor wearing his Wigan shirt and Stuart "I just can't stop making stuff up" Cummings backing Silverwood at every opportunity.

Both Yates and Walters were only on the bench because of the injury crisis. Walters showed great promise last year and I still think he could make it, however he has shown no form in recent games neither has Yates so it is a judgement call for the coach with good reason IMO. Do you keep your best players out there who you know can put in long minutes with high tackle counts, carries and offloads or do you risk the out of form 2nd reserves when you are chasing the game?

You obviously felt that Yates and Walters would have broke through the gain line with clever offloads and smashed messrs Millington and Lynch out of sight.

We have not been able to pick a full strength team for many weeks now so the coach has had to rely on JP & Cuthbo to carry the burden up front and IMO they have not let him down. The cap does not run to an all star 25 man squad so it is understandable that there will be one or two down the pecking order who are regarded as work in progress and yes that may mean the coach does not trust them in certain game situations but will give them game time in other circumstances.

Not at all. I said members of the squad "either aren't good enough to be trusted to take the field, or simply aren't trusted without reason". It's probably the former. I don't think Yates is good enough, and Walters appears to have gone backwards from last year.

I think you missed my point about squad-building and who you think might be responsible for the failures there?

If we had a bench of Sinfield/Leuluai/Bailey/Kirke against Castleford then I'm certain the latter two would've gotten much more game time than Yates and Walters.

But we got rid to please the fans even though it meant the coach losing two players he trusted to put on the pitch without replacements for them being signed. Granted they had their faults but they got on the pitxh rather than sat untrusted on the bench, I'd take the former over the latter and that's why we're struggling to rest forwards right now and look low on numbers.

What's that saying, something along the lines of if you listen to the fans you end up sitting with them.

As much as they weren't everybodies cup of tea it was a very poor decision based on fan pressure to get rid of two props post season.

I'm sure Bailey wasn't released because of fan pressure.

I'm sure you're wrong. Might've been issues around Easter but you don't give him good minutes in the cup semi and final and have him start the next few games with Leuluai on the bench if those 'rumours' of a falling out were long lasting.

Shouldn't believe every rumour you hear on here when common sense proves otherwise. Much like the McDermott has fallen out with Sinfield for retiring rumours when he wasn't picked......that one seems to die a death when it became apparent he was rested for the cup like I said all along. Cue him dropping to the bench just before the next cup game.