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Quote: darwoo11 "Take it you are not after winning anything then??

Pitts in the starting 13
Would you say Kirke was better ? Even JJB has hardly set the world on fire this season.

....and no i would not expect us to win anything....that's my point.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Would you say Kirke was better ? Even JJB has hardly set the world on fire this season.

....and no i would not expect us to win anything....that's my point.'"


You're either looking for bites or you're not. What's it to be?

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Quote: Era of the Biff "You're either looking for bites or you're not. What's it to be?'"


think have got the measure of this site now........alas not before time eusa_whistle.gif maybe.

my friend it is entirely up to you.

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[b:2cam5ipi]Novae Mentis Templa Colimus - Together we achieve success.[/b:2cam5ipi] [quote="theres only one stan wall":2cam5ipi]Not bothered because Wigan will win comfortably, Leeds pack is decimated.[/quote:2cam5ipi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44466.gif



Quote: nantwichexile "First 17 for 2011
2011 is far too early for that team. Next year wont see many changes. Smith to fill the Donald void, maybe Ambler to get on the bench and possibly Clarkson to start. Your BJBs, McShanes etc are going to have to wait for their chance i'm afraid. We cant have highly paid players sitting back with their feet up in the stands watching the kids earn their money.

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Quote: Sam Buca "2011 is far too early for that team. Next year wont see many changes. Smith to fill the Donald void, maybe Ambler to get on the bench and possibly Clarkson to start. Your BJBs, McShanes etc are going to have to wait for their chance i'm afraid. We cant have highly paid players sitting back with their feet up in the stands watching the kids earn their money.'"


Too true.... We live in an imperfect world. But woe betide them if i was coach. I have no need for friends, buddies or favourites.

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We've no God given right to win any matchs, simply because we've had a pretty decent run over the last 7 seasons. That said, the squad we had at the begining of the season, was (on paper) our strongest, and coming off a Triple winning Final should have been pretty awesome this season.

A CC final in which we competed for 10 minutes, and a possible 4th place must be viewed as a lot less than awesome. And before the kneejerking begins, I'm not intrested about the 20/30 barren years which preceeded this era, or how you stood in the freezing rain for all of them. I was there too, so STFU. Injuries are not an excuse. They are a fact of life in this game for all teams, so what's gone wrong?

I think it's simply the fact that other teams have worked out where this particular Squad has strenghts and weakness, and tailor their game plan accordingly. I used to be fairly relaxed that in the last 15 minutes or so of a match we would still be running at our starting levels, whilst the opposition would be running out of puff. Not any more, all the other major teams have raised their fitness levels to ours, and we no longer enjoy that cushion.

We've always had outstanding individuals in the squad, perhaps we've become a little too complacent about the basics of the game, safe in the knowledge that one of the backs could dance his way through the opposition if need be.

Much has been discussed about the differing coaching abilities of Tony Smith and Bluey. Each has been outstanding for us, but there is a natural end to anyones period in control of a sporting team. Smith took us as far as he could, and I think he left at the right time. Similarly, I think Bluey's tenure is approaching the end as well. Both deserve all the plaudits for what they have acheived at Headingley.

Some fresh ideas from a new coach/coaching set up could provide the neccessary impetus, along with a couple of shrewd signings by GH, and we will once again be the team to beat.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: BillyRhino "We've no God given right to win any matchs, simply because we've had a pretty decent run over the last 7 seasons. That said, the squad we had at the begining of the season, was (on paper) our strongest, and coming off a Triple winning Final should have been pretty awesome this season.

A CC final in which we competed for 10 minutes, and a possible 4th place must be viewed as a lot less than awesome. And before the kneejerking begins, I'm not intrested about the 20/30 barren years which preceeded this era, or how you stood in the freezing rain for all of them. I was there too, so STFU. Injuries are not an excuse. They are a fact of life in this game for all teams, so what's gone wrong?

I think it's simply the fact that other teams have worked out where this particular Squad has strenghts and weakness, and tailor their game plan accordingly. I used to be fairly relaxed that in the last 15 minutes or so of a match we would still be running at our starting levels, whilst the opposition would be running out of puff. Not any more, all the other major teams have raised their fitness levels to ours, and we no longer enjoy that cushion.

We've always had outstanding individuals in the squad, perhaps we've become a little too complacent about the basics of the game, safe in the knowledge that one of the backs could dance his way through the opposition if need be.

Much has been discussed about the differing coaching abilities of Tony Smith and Bluey. Each has been outstanding for us, but there is a natural end to anyones period in control of a sporting team. Smith took us as far as he could, and I think he left at the right time. Similarly, I think Bluey's tenure is approaching the end as well. Both deserve all the plaudits for what they have acheived at Headingley.

Some fresh ideas from a new coach/coaching set up could provide the neccessary impetus, along with a couple of shrewd signings by GH, and we will once again be the team to beat.'"

20/30 barren years preceeded this era and I stood in the freezing rain for all of them.

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Quote: G1 "20/30 barren years preceeded this era and I stood in the freezing rain for all of them.'"


Did you not hear? he told you to STFU.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Did you not hear? he told you to STFU.'"

No. I never read his drivel.

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Quote: G1 "No. I never read his drivel.'"


Pants on fire ! !

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Quote: G1 "No. I never read his drivel.'"


Well can you stop quoting him so I dont have to.

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Quote: G1 "20/30 barren years preceeded this era and I stood in the freezing rain for all of them.'"


You were lucky! Who'd a thought 20/30 years ago we would all be sitting here drinking Chateau de Whinos whine, eh? Back in them days we were glad to pay price of a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Aye, a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Without milk or sugar. Or tea! In a filthy cracked Yorkshire Cup. That's when we 'ad a Yorkshire Cup. We used to 'ave to drink out of a rolled up copy of Rugby Leaguer or Green Final. But ya know, we were 'appy in those days, though we were sh[ii[/it... because we were sh[ii[/it. My old Dad used to say to me 'Success doesn't buy you happiness". And he was right. I was happier then and we had nothing! But you can't tell the young people of the day that. They won't believe you.

Now STFU...

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "You were lucky! Who'd a thought 20/30 years ago we would all be sitting here drinking Chateau de Whinos whine, eh? Back in them days we were glad to pay price of a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Aye, a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Without milk or sugar. Or tea! In a filthy cracked Yorkshire Cup. That's when we 'ad a Yorkshire Cup. We used to 'ave to drink out of a rolled up copy of Rugby Leaguer or Green Final. But ya know, we were 'appy in those days, though we were sh[ii[/it... because we were sh[ii[/it. My old Dad used to say to me 'Success doesn't buy you happiness". And he was right. I was happier then and we had nothing! But you can't tell the young people of the day that. They won't believe you.

Now STFU...'"

I've no idea what you're talking about. My online personna may be that of a 39 year old Northern bloke but in reality I am a 17 year old girl who thinks Sinni is well fit, innit.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "You were lucky! Who'd a thought 20/30 years ago we would all be sitting here drinking Chateau de Whinos whine, eh? Back in them days we were glad to pay price of a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Aye, a freezing cup o'cold Loiners. Without milk or sugar. Or tea! In a filthy cracked Yorkshire Cup. That's when we 'ad a Yorkshire Cup. We used to 'ave to drink out of a rolled up copy of Rugby Leaguer or Green Final. But ya know, we were 'appy in those days, though we were sh[ii[/it... because we were sh[ii[/it. My old Dad used to say to me 'Success doesn't buy you happiness". And he was right. I was happier then and we had nothing! But you can't tell the young people of the day that. They won't believe you.

Now STFU...'"


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Quote: G1 "Do you have a link to any of this abuse?

My position was made very clear when these "Greatest/strongest ever squad" threads appeared. It was a ridiculous discussion to even have. Titles should be bestowed upon players/squads when they've been earned on the field of play, not in the minds of statisticians and list makers before the season begins.

Not an unreasonable position nor is it abuse of anyone who wishes to bestow such accolades pre-season, would you not agree?'"


Your right about all these ridiculous accolades like "Most Feared:::::etc"

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