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| I think that Knowles was just trying to slow the play the ball down but did get his arm in a compromising position.
The Welsby one is a tough one because it was almost a perfect tackle but contact has definitely been made with the head of the Salford player. If you go in that hard and that fast you always run the risk and need to get it perfect.
I haven't slowed it down and watched it frame by frame but the blood on the Salford players face is evidence enough and it doesn't matter whether the contact is shoulder, clash of heads or anything else, Welsby instigated the contact so by the rules we've seen this year it should be a 2 match ban but I have no doubt he'll be cleared to play.
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| Quote: CartHorse1984 "I think that Knowles was just trying to slow the play the ball down but did get his arm in a compromising position.
The Welsby one is a tough one because it was almost a perfect tackle but contact has definitely been made with the head of the Salford player. If you go in that hard and that fast you always run the risk and need to get it perfect.
I haven't slowed it down and watched it frame by frame but the blood on the Salford players face is evidence enough and it doesn't matter whether the contact is shoulder, clash of heads or anything else, Welsby instigated the contact so by the rules we've seen this year it should be a 2 match ban but I have no doubt he'll be cleared to play.'"
He pulled his arm up his back in an unnatural position, there’s no excuse for that. Will he cop a ban, absolutely not, as we all know how it works this year.
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| Quote: Clearwing "No shooting down by me on the Knowles one. Pulled the arm behind the player's back but not in a way that put any real stress on any joint. Could still be deemed reckless I suppose. Wellsby's looked the worst of the two though I haven't gone into forensic scrutiny of footage on my phone.
Tbh, after banging on about soft bans all season I'm not comfortable with hoping the panel bans yet more players. If we're good enough, we'll beat saints regardless of who they have on the park. If not, so be it.'"
I'd agree with that but now is not the time to be changing the rules on what gets a ban, if they do then they look even more stupid than they have all year (if that were possible). Look at Martins 2 recent bans, it'd be pretty ridiculous if saints escape without any.
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| Sezer and Gannon definitely out with concussion
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| Quote: Jack Burton "Sezer and Gannon definitely out with concussion'"
Think Sezer was pretty inevitable from the moment he went down. Massively impressed with Rohan on Gannon. Sounds like technically he could play, but they are not willing to risk his health. Sounds very much like Martin is the only returnee. So be it.
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| It would be shocking for if knowles and welbsly are allowed to play, especially Welbsly given we have a player out due to concussion protocol after foul play, direct hit to the head. But the MRP and RFL don’t follow their own rules.
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| I suspect Knowles will be ok, because they are mainly concerned about concussions at the minute.
In any case, let them both play. Lets have both teams as close to full strength as possible, and battle it out for top spot. I think Rohan is putting huge emphasis that it doesn’t matter who is not playing or what the other team are doing, only what we can control.
Let saints bring it on with a full contingent and let the best team win!
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| Quote: christopher "So should Welsby'"
Don't agree with - it was a great tackle - if we are banning players for tackles like that they game is ruined as a spectacle
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Don't agree with - it was a great tackle - if we are banning players for tackles like that they game is ruined as a spectacle'"
It was a great tackle apart from the fact that he clocked him in the face with his shoulder. If he was six inches lower you'd be right, but you can't ban all headshots "apart from the ones that look great"
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| This is a game - Leeds should go into with confidence. Saints are beatable it needs a strong ref who will keep an eye on the offside at the PTB - Saints are too quick off the mark.
As Salford showed Saints right side is vulnerable. If Knowles plays then something is seriously wrong with the MRP.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "It was a great tackle apart from the fact that he clocked him in the face with his shoulder. If he was six inches lower you'd be right, but you can't ban all headshots "apart from the ones that look great"'"
I dont agree he has simply flatten him head on - no sure what he supposed to do? Props just run over smaller guys no problem they drive in with their shoulder straight at an opponents head - that's OK?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "This is a game - Leeds should go into with confidence. Saints are beatable it needs a strong ref who will keep an eye on the offside at the PTB - Saints are too quick off the mark.
As Salford showed Saints right side is vulnerable. If Knowles plays then something is seriously wrong with the MRP.'"
If Saints are off the line a bit quick, then chip over them. We have a coach now who would encourage that kind of play I think, and do it once or twice and they will either take a defender form the line (leaving more from) to sweep behind or give us a second more to get forwards.
We need to play our game on Saturday, not be forced into the one they want to play.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I dont agree he has simply flatten him head on - no sure what he supposed to do? Props just run over smaller guys no problem they drive in with their shoulder straight at an opponents head - that's OK?'"
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "
Sorry the picture you grabbed shows shoulder on shoulder contact?
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