But you mentioned Daniel smith and anybody called Smith in your initial post?

No issue if you don’t rate Smith, we are all allowed our views on players but saying he is rubbish, his brother is rubbish and anybody called Smith is rubbish seems a bit ridiculous to me.

I don't know why we don't just try a high kick or a chip over on the last. Saints are starting their sets on half way anyway

on or off the pitch

Don’t reflect on the performance in relation to those missing but rather those on the pitch, regardless of any result it’s way below par.

You know when everyone calls to play the kids, well this is what can happen especially with others out

We can’t perform the basics missed tackles poor tackling technique and poor/non existent kicking strategy.
We badly need a new Aussie coach with new ideas and strong discipline just like Tony smith in the early days not been able to defend correctly is unforgivable in a full time sport.

Because we have no leader on the pitch

Saints is never an easy place to go. Leeds got smashed there in 2004, and in 2007 I think.

Some established players not pulling their weight, some young players look a bit raw.

Draw a line under it and move on

But it’s not about that Chris is the errors and poor play from very senior players, and there’s plenty in this side. Compare Johnson’s first set to Dwyer’s first of the match.

Having said that Johnson looks lively

A hooker with quick accurate distribution and suddenly we have men going forward

Dwyer simply isn’t a starting hooker

Johnstone looks very good like a young Matt diskin he controls the plays.

simply isn't a hooker